Monday Night Raw – February 24, 2014: That Old Feeling

Monday Night Raw
Date: February 24, 2014
Location: Resch Center, Green Bay, Wisconsin
Commentators: Michael Cole, John Bradshaw Layfield, Jerry Lawler

To say tonight is a stacked card is an understatement. First and foremost we have a slew of returning stars, including Hulk Hogan, Brock Lesnar, Shawn Michaels and potentially Undertaker. It’s also the night after Elimination Chamber which saw a masterpiece between Shield and the Wyatt Family and Randy Orton retaining the WWE Title inside the Chamber. The interesting thing is what happens with Daniel Bryan, who was screwed out of the title again, leading to a tirade from Michael Cole about how it has to stop. Let’s get to it.

We open with the return of Hulk Hogan to a very nice reaction. He soaks it in….and almost immediately screws up his lines, saying the WWE Universe has officially launched. Hogan almost saves it by saying the Universe launched the Network. He talks about his career making a turn as he’s coming home to be the official host of Wrestlemania XXX. So whatcha gonna do when Hulkamania runs wild on you brother?

The announcers show us how to use the Network on various platforms.

Batista vs. Alberto Del Rio

The reaction is somehow even worse than last night. Batista points out one of the Boo-Tista signs in the crowd with a little smirk. Dave pounds him into the corner with right hands to start and a clothesline sends Del Rio outside. Alberto goes back first into the apron before being sent back inside for a suplex. Batista clotheslines him back to the floor but Del Rio trips him up and drops him on the apron. Del Rio sends him into the steps as Lawler talks about the reaction at the Rumble, coming to the logical conclusion of the fans just wanted to see Bryan.

Back from a break with Del Rio stomping on Batista in the ring. Batista comes back with some shots of his own and takes Del Rio down with some clotheslines. A Codebreaker on the arm puts Batista on the mat but he ducks the low superkick and avoids the charge in the corner. There’s the spinebuster but here’s Randy Orton as well, allowing Del Rio to roll Batista up for the pin at 10:17.

Rating: D+. This felt more like an angle than a match and at this point that’s the best thing that can happen to Batista. Del Rio hasn’t been bad lately but the fans are going to cheer anyone that’s against Batista right now. The match didn’t have time to go anywhere with most of it being in a commercial.

Randy calls that one of the funniest things he’s ever seen before talking about the fans rejecting Batista ever since he came back. He thinks Batista must regret returning but Batista says Orton couldn’t be more wrong. Batista loves this business and the fans have their own voice. However, he has his own voice too and will boo them right back. He’ll be going to Wrestlemania to fight one of his former friends and taking the title, so deal with it.

Cesaro vs. Big E.

Non-title. Big E. quickly runs him over with a shoulder but Cesaro comes back with a series of knees to the ribs. A very nice overhead belly to belly sends Cesaro flying and some running shoulders in the corner are good for two. Back up and they collide before Cesaro kicks Big E. in the face to take over. We hit the chinlock for a bit before a series of backbreakers put Cesaro down. Cesaro puts him down with a headlock as JBL and Cole have an unfunny conversation about what the E. stands for. Cesaro catches a charging Big E. in a tilt-a-whirl backbreaker as we take a break.

Back with Cesaro holding a chinlock but Big E. fights up for a gorilla press. He misses a charge into the post though and Cesaro pounds away in the corner before putting on a chinlock. A big powerslam gets two on E. and Cesaro tells Colter he’s got it. We hit the chinlock again but Big E. fights up, only to get caught in a sleeper. He rolls free and slams Cesaro down before taking off the straps.

Cesaro escapes the Big Ending and somehow hits Swiss Death for a VERY close two. The Swing is countered and Big E. hits something like a Rock Bottom out of the corner. Big E. is sent to the floor but he has to run over Swagger, allowing Cesaro to Swing the champion. Cesaro looks to set up the Neutralizer but Swagger comes in for the DQ at 15:50.

Rating: C+. This was a match with two big guys beating the tar out of each other for fifteen minutes and you can’t screw something like that up. Cesaro is an absolute freak but Big E. was more than holding his own out there. The Real Americans need to split already as Cesaro is ready to make a big jump but Swagger is holding him down.

Post match Big E. goes after Jack but Cesaro jumps him from behind and hits the Neutralizer.

Stills of the Chamber and the Wyatts costing Cena the match.

Here’s Cena to finally address the Wyatts. First off though, he says how great it is to see Hulk Hogan back where he belongs. Over the last few weeks Cena has been saying that anyone who wants to get to the top of the WWE has to go through him. The fans are of course split and Cena is of course cool with that idea. This brings him to Bray Wyatt, who has caused quite a stir since he showed up around here.

Last night Cena came face to face with Bray Wyatt and Bray cost him a championship match. That was a bold move and John Cena is right here if Bray wants to make another bold move. Here’s the whole Family to respond but Bray sits in his chair in the aisle. He says this world has an infection and a virus known as the human race. Through all of these times it makes sense that Cena would put himself right in the middle of all of them. What would the world be without its hero or its knight in shining hero?

John Cena is full of empty promises because he can’t save these people from this terrible world. Cena says the future has to come through him and Bray couldn’t agree more. Wyatt introduces himself to Cena and they are the reapers who bring death to this era of lies. Cena introduces himself as well and says if one of them comes into this ring, they’re starting something they might not be able to finish.

The monsters storm the ring and the numbers are too much for Cena. Bray pulls the Family back as Cena is favoring his left leg. Cena charges at them anyway but they’re just too bit. He’s holding that knee almost the entire time. John gets up again and the Family walks away but Cena can barely walk. He has to chase off Rowan, allowing Bray to run Cena over again. Follow the buzzards.

Cena was stretchered out during the break.

Christian vs. Sheamus

This was set up on the pre-show by Brad Maddox due to the two of them having issues since Smackdown on Friday. Christian is quickly sent to the floor but he comes back in with some right hands. Sheamus is fine with that and takes Christian into the corner for some clubbing forearms. A clothesline gets two on the Canadian and we hit a chinlock. Christian tries to wrap Sheamus’ leg around the post but Sheamus pull him face first into the steel instead. Christian counters the ten forearms to the chest and scores with a missile dropkick for two. Sheamus backdrops him to the floor and hits a shoulder off the apron as we take a break.

Back with Christian shoving Sheamus off the top and to the floor before ramming him into the steps. Christian stomps away in the corner before putting on a body vice to work over Sheamus’ bad ribs. Cole tells us that Cena’s injury is to his knee and it’s swollen pretty badly. Christian puts on an abdominal stretch but Sheamus elbows his way out and avoids a cross body.

Sheamus is sent to the floor but he catches a charging Christian with a knee lift and hits the ten forearms to the chest. A slingshot shoulder gets two and Sheamus busts out the Cloverleaf but Christian is quickly in the ropes. White Noise is countered into a sunset flip for two but the Brogue Kick misses. Christian goes up top but jumps into the Brogue Kick for the pin at 15:50.

Rating: B-. Another nice long match tonight with Christian getting to do what he does best: look good in a losing effort. Sheamus is still in a weird place as the fans like him and always pop for the Brogue (hard not to) but he really needs something to do. Good match here and that’s all you can ask for at times.

Earlier tonight the Authority called today the biggest night since the first Wrestlemania when Bryan cams up screaming, saying that he’ll fight HHH right now or at Wrestlemania but HHH laughed it off.

Black History Month video on the Soul Patrol of Tony Atlas and Rocky Johnson.

Dean Ambrose is tired of explaining himself to Rollins and Reigns. They don’t trust him so he’s out of here. Rollins and Reigns are left alone when the Wyatts come in. Reigns challenges them to a fight right now, but says he’d love to fight Bray one on one tonight, with the Family and the dogs staying in the back. Bray accepts and laughs.

Ric Flair and Booker T were on the Raw pre-show panel to talk about the show. Flair starts a YES chant to take us to the next match.

Daniel Bryan vs. Kane

Kane slugs away to start but Bryan comes back with kicks to the leg. A running dropkick to the knee has Kane in trouble and some chop blocks put him down. Kane fights out of a half crab and stomps away but Bryan fights back like the plucky hero he is. A shot to the shoulder puts him back down though and we hit the armbar, only to have Bryan send Kane to the floor. The FLYING GOAT is blocked by an uppercut and we take a break.

Back with Kane stomping away and putting on an armbar, only to have Bryan quickly punch his way out. Bryan hits the moonsault out of the corner and takes Kane down with the running clothesline. There are the YES Kicks but the big one is countered and a side slam gets two. Bryan fights back again and gets two of his own off a top rope hurricanrana before hitting the running corner dropkicks.

Kane charges over the top to the floor and there’s the FLYING GOAT! Another running dropkick knocks Kane against the barricade and a missile dropkick connects back inside. A big kick to the head gets two but Kane counters the top rope headbutt with a chokeslam for a close two. Bryan can’t get the YES Lock the first or second time so he hits a quick running knee for the pin at 15:40.

Rating: C+. This was the match that the two needed to have and it gets rid of the idea of Bryan vs. Kane at Wrestlemania. It’s pretty clear that we’re heading towards HHH vs. Bryan in the showdown and there’s nothing wrong with that at all. Not a great match or anything but it was a good performance by both guys. Kane needs to lose the shirt though.

Bryan calls HHH a coward for running from a challenge and hiding behind Stephaine’s skirt. Ever since HHH put on the suit, he’s ignored the people’s wishes, even when they make their voices heard. The YES chant starts up and Bryan asks HHH if he’s listening. There’s an entire arena of people here in Green Bay, Wisconsin chanting YES so give them what they want: HHH vs. Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania XXX.

Emma vs. Summer Rae

Emma gets her full entrance with the bubbles and dancing but the people still don’t care. Emma grabs a small package for an early two but Summer kicks her head off to take over. Summer puts on a chinlock as the match slows quite a bit. The fans actually cheer for Emma to fight up and she counters another spinwheel kick into the Emma Lock (bridging Indian deathlock) for the win at 3:24.

Rating: D+. Emma still isn’t working due to the Santino factor but that’s WWE for you. Just let her be goofy and adorable and the fans will get into her. The lack of the long pants and shirt helped her here but she still needs to be herself instead of Santino’s latest chick. Seriously he’s had like four Divas now.

We look back at Hogan’s return earlier.

Usos vs. New Age Outlaws

Non-title. Dogg gets on the mic and says we know how this ends so the young kids need to get out of the ring. The Usos actually do it so the Outlaws can do their schtick but the twins come in and clean house with Jimmy superkicking and splashing Road Dogg for the pin at 1:13.

Bray Wyatt vs. Roman Reigns

They trade right hands to start and Bray rolls to the floor. Back in and Reigns shoves Bray around before a finger to the eye sends Wyatt outside again. Bray comes back in again and takes over with a boot to the head followed by a hard clothesline for two. Roman will have none of this selling stuff and takes Bray outside for an even harder clothesline as we take a break.

Back with Bray hitting a running backsplash and drawing what sounds like a SCARY chant. We hit the headlock on the mat as the fans are already bored because this hasn’t been going a thousand miles an hour. Bray hits his running cross body and a splash in the corner but Reigns avoids another charge. The dropkick from the floor to the apron sets up a belly to back slam (similar to Cena’s ProtoBomb) for two….and here are the other Wyatts.

They’re just on the floor but Rollins sprints in from the crowd and DIVES on both of them, giving Bray a rollup for two. Reigns misses a charge into the post as Rollins is beaten down. Ambrose finally charges in from the back to join the fight but Reigns scores with the Superman Punch. He has to go after Harper though and Ambrose comes in for the DQ at 14:00 though.

Rating: C+. This was the only way to go here and the ending was about as good as it could have been. They clearly couldn’t job either guy and it advances Dean’s split. It helped that Ambrose was caught up in the moment rather than doing something stupid so Reigns has a reason to believe him when he says it wasn’t intentional.

Here are Heyman and Lesnar to close the show with a table in the ring. Paul calls Brock the undisputed #1 contender but apparently HHH won’t let him in the title match. He’s offered Brock an open contract at Wrestlemania but that’s just not good enough. What Brock wants is to conquer history, just like he’s done with every single thing he’s done in his life. The only reason Brock Lesnar can’t conquer the WWE Championship is the Authority won’t give him the chance.

That’s how they get you in WWE, so Paul has advised Brock to turn down the open contract and demand the title match. If not, there’s no Lesnar at Wrestlemania…..and there’s the gong. Brock isn’t sure what to think because apparently the lightning, thunder, smoke, organ music and UNDERTAKER BEING ON THE SCREEN AREN’T CLEAR ENOUGH. Undertaker comes through the curtain (with black Ministry beard of course) and Brock still isn’t sure what to do.

Taker turns to Brock and stares him down as a LOUD Undertaker chant starts up. He looks over Brock at the sign and we get the big staredown. Paul gets the idea and open the contract for Brock. Lesnar immediately signs and hands Taker the pen. Heyman offers Taker the match so Taker STABS BROCK’s HAND WITH THE PEN and chokeslams him through the table. The hood comes off and he’s got a little mohawk going to make him look even more evil. Brock is left laying to end the show.

Overall Rating: A. I had a blast with tonight’s show as it feels like we’re getting to Wrestlemania season. We’ve got three major matches practically penciled in and a lot of stuff got nice build as well. Couple that with four matches going 14+ minutes and you can’t go wrong here. The ending was the high point of course but I can’t shake that feeling I got from Hogan. It just felt right seeing him back on Raw and I can’t help but smile.

Results

Alberto Del Rio b. Baitsta – Rollup

Big E. b. Cesaro via DQ when Jack Swagger interfered

Sheamus b. Christian – Brogue Kick

Daniel Bryan b. Kane – Running Knee

Emma b. Summer Rae – Emma Lock

Bray Wyatt b. Roman Reigns via DQ when Dean Ambrose interfered

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46 Responses

  1. Civil Defence says:

    No one is mentioning the obvious – KB has been pushing for Bray Wyatt vs Roman Reigns and awesome it would be. You got it. And it was terrible. Roman Reigns looked completely lost when he wasn’t hitting his big moves.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      I’d hardly call it awful. Give it a build and an atmosphere and see what happens.

      • Civil Defence says:

        Reigns doesn’t look ready for a singles push. His in ring work still has a long way to go. I’m sure he’ll get there, but they are going to have to give him time

  2. Rocko says:

    I hope they keep it Orton vs Batista. The crowd reaction to that could possibly rival the Lesnar vs Goldberg match. It will be hilarious.

    • ted says:

      Question is do they think the audience won’t shit all over it? or do they just not care? It’s far more entertaining if the company thinks it knows better.

  3. Jerichoholic94 says:

    I’m kind of upset (as are many) that Daniel Bryan still isn’t inserted in a triple threat match after Batista’s reaction at the last 2 PPVs. At first I was excited to hear he was coming back although I never was his biggest fan but since he’s come back I’m completely dissatisfied with his promos and also in ring work. Wondering how this will progress over the next few weeks..

    Undertaker’s return was basically spoiled to be tonight atleast a month ago if not more. As soon as I heard the gong I marked out. Taker is still by far still my favourite of all time and can still bring his A-Game at Wrestlemania. I’m interested to see him and Lesnar get it on this year on the grandest stage.

    Also, Cena vs Wyatt is all but locked in and that should be a great match as well.

    I must say however I did anticipate RVD and Jericho back for WM. It’s not too late. Just figured they’d be back by the rumble.

  4. Killjoy says:

    Usos vs NAO isn’t on the review.

  5. ted says:

    Well here’s hoping a change is made in the next six weeks.

  6. ted says:

    P.s. Heyo i’m sorry if I came off harsh. I respect your opinion. it’s just so frustrating to see this happening.

  7. ted says:

    1. In hollywood terms Batista is nobody Zoe Saldana was in avatar and is about to be in 3 more of them on top of gog.

    2. Groot yes the talking tree. The joke isn’t that he doesn’t have a lot of lines it’s that the only thing groot can say ls I am groot. He will be featured plenty in the film as he and Rocket Racoon are the most marketable characters to kids.

    3. Just because something is happening doesn’t mean you have to accept or like it.

    I’ve never heard that triple h hates Bryan why would he?

    Triple H’s ego cannot be so big that he believes he’s doing Bryan a favour by letting Bryan beat him at wresltemania. Also this is somehow on the same level of winning the gold in the main event.

    • Heyo says:

      I’ve heard it from a lot of smark sites, and given the stuff HHH has done over the years, this actually sounds like something he would do. Didn’t he bury Orton at one point? And how he beat Booker T at WM19 despite the booking going in Booker’s favor.

      Actually….the part about Orton is ironic in hindsight. Then again, Austin and McMahon teaming up was unimaginable until WM17.

      Admittedly, I’ve been more accepting of rumor sites as of late. Especially when you have things like people posting pictures of the next iPhone in advance and leaks like that in the tech industry.

      • Civil Defence says:

        HHH had issue with online sites calling Bryan Danielson the best wrestler in the world back in the day. I remember a few interviews with him before Danielson signed with WWE, and all HHH could say was he was a nobody and that HHH was a star while Danielson wrestled to 50 people a night making no money

  8. ted says:

    Imagine this advertisement online or on TV.

    It’s for Guardians of the Galaxy, and they cut to Batista’s character in the movie. They juxtapose his character being a badass with Batista in the WWE, beating Orton in the ring and with the titles in his hands. They make it like you can see this character in the next big Marvel movie in the WWE.

    Also, they market it to kids, because kids like Marvel.

    1. I just don’t see drax being the break out character of that movie. especially with vin disel and zoe saldana in it.

    2. the very minor burst of publicity they may get is not worth the amazing backlash they are receiving. Give him the title in may or june. The movie doesn’t come out untill august tie it in with summerslam if you must. Make your fans happy at the biggest show of the year. It should be a no brainier.

    • Heyo says:

      1. There’s already a running joke about how little Vin Diesel’s part will be. Apparently all he’s supposed to do is say his character’s name a few times and that’s it. And I don’t think Zoe Saldana ever became a huge name. But at the same time, you have a monster character in Drax, and it looks like Batista with some body paint over himself. It won’t take long with a few WWE commercials to point out that they’re the same person.

      2. That’s actually what I’m worried about: That HHH does not seem to give a shit anymore. I’m actually on the side of Bryan getting a title shot, but given that HHH supposedly legit hates him and that they’ve had many, many times to give him the title but still seem to keep him out of the title shot, I don’t think it’s going to happen for a while.

      I was afraid a long time ago that Bryan was going to get buried for personal and business reasons, and sadly that seems to be happening. Granted, I would totally love to see him win, because he deserves it and that would be interesting to see how WWE does with him actually as their champion.

      But sadly, I remember an article after the Rumble accusing Vince of either not caring about the fans anymore or being out of touch. That seems to be happening.

  9. Stormy says:

    I noticed something awesome tonight.

    They have only 1 recap of an earlier segment, and it was John Cena’s injury (a massive story). Probably because we have both the pre-show and Backstage Pass.

    In its stead we had longer matches and more story-advancing segments.

    Oh, and if we give the WWE Universe what they want all the time, then every face will win and every heel will lose and WWE will go out of business. I don’t mind HHH/Bryan, and I’m certain a WWE WHC match will come from that, as early as at WrestleMania XXX after Orton/Batista.

  10. F5 says:

    No wonder WWE started up the Network before Mania. Because nobody would be crazy enough to buy the PPV with what is lined up. This has to be the most lackluster card since Hogan/Sid or Taker/Sid… hmm… Batista reminds me an awful lot of Sid…

    And let’s not forget Lesnar, the guy who made Taker his bitch 10+ years ago before Lesnar was trained as a UFC fighter and winning their championship fighting against someone on(literally) their last legs and presenting it as a sort of threat. Lesnar should’ve faced Bryan for the title at Wrestlemania and HHH should’ve faced the television screen from his couch.

    This only looks bad on WWE asskissers too, because if you actually buy that this was the real plan then you have to admit that HHH purposely diminished the momentum of this match by him and his wife acting like faces for absolutely no reason, which ultimately confused fans and caused what would ultimately result in a lesser payoff for Bryan. If you don’t buy this and instead believe that this was originally planned for Punk, then you must admit that WWE had an even LESSER match planned for Bryan, and the single most over man on the roster was only not going to be in the title match, but they would rather give his payoff match against HHH to CM Punk, someone who was half-assing it during his current run and didn’t even want to be there!

    So, let’s assume that HHH, who has either purposely diminished this feud for the sake of placating his own ego, or that HHH, the man who believed Bryan wasn’t even capable of being in a top 3 match on the card and would rather give his push to Big Show and Punk, has Bryan go over him. Then what? How do we know the fans will still give a shit by the time this happens? Bryan isn’t in the main event. Orton and a guy who was never the top dog and failed when Vince and HHH tried to make him be, are. He’s not in the second biggest match. Lesnar and Undertaker are, two more part-timers. What does this do for Bryan, really?

    It’s arguable that Bryan is even IN the 3rd biggest match. Cena is still wrestling on this card. Cena is the top star in the company. You really think that his match is going to be made a low tier match? Hogan vs Sid was the main event when they fought. HHH Vs Sheamus sure wasn’t a top match on the card. So we’re left with Bryan as an afterthought, and HHH, a man who has never had a good Mania match except for when he was carried by Undertaker, to accomplish everything that his supposed heel persona actually said, making him into less than a top star.

    The most over guy on the roster is an afterthought. You think this will make people want to buy the PPV? But WWE “always has a plan” what we want will always happen… we just don’t know what WWE is gonna do!…. But we do, everything they’ve been saying they will do for months now is what ended up happening. Nothing has changed.

    No wonder Punk left. Can you blame him?(I’m sure you’ll find some excuse to, like the idiots on your forum who still want to pretend Bryan should be handed that belt immediately and let run with it)

    • M.R. says:

      Triple H’s only good Mania matches were against Taker? Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit, and Sheamus would all disagree. Hell, even his matches with Jericho and Cena weren’t bad.

    • Jay H. (the real one) says:

      KB why are you letting this F5 fool run his mouth? All he does is go on long rants about nothing almost.

      Well if DB has to go through HHH to get back to the Title then I guess so be it. Who knows they could add the stip if he beats HHH then gets into the Title Match later.

      RAW was fine overall. Taker/Brock was awesome,Reigns/Bray was good (didn’t care for the Savage chants this time,the Match wasn’t that bad),Sheamus/Christian,and DB/Kane were all good.

      Batista was awful tonight. Hogan looked so good back in a WWE Ring and I couldn’t help but enjoy it too.

  11. M.R. says:

    You seem to be missing the point.

  12. SamualDude says:

    A very good show and we have two very exciting matches in Cena vs Bray and Taker vs Lesnar but my goodness that title match at the moment is just awful. The fans just don’t want to see it at all.

    • ted says:

      It seems like a pissing contest. The fans want Bryan. The office wants Dave. I”m just wondering if they really are willing to have massive booing. In the main event of the biggest show of the year.

      • SamualDude says:

        The only way Wrestlemania should end is with Daniel Bryan holding the titles, one in each arm and leading the WWE Universe in a Yes Chant.

      • Heyo says:

        If the rumors of Vince doing a deal with Marvel to give Batista the title for Guardians of the Galaxy, I don’t think they really care anymore.

        They’ll probably be like “oh sure, wrestling fans don’t like it. But kids will see that guy from the new Marvel movie holding the title and will tune in because of it, so it’s all good”

        The fact that I can actually see something like this being said in the office is sad.

        • ted says:

          That rumor doesn’t even make sense. Why would marvel care if one of the characters is champion or not? It’s not like batista being champion changes his movie contract. Or his characters importance in the film.

        • M.R. says:

          Not sure if the rumor’s even true, but how do you not see the publicity impact of Batista being champ?

        • Heyo says:

          Imagine this advertisement online or on TV.

          It’s for Guardians of the Galaxy, and they cut to Batista’s character in the movie. They juxtapose his character being a badass with Batista in the WWE, beating Orton in the ring and with the titles in his hands. They make it like you can see this character in the next big Marvel movie in the WWE.

          Also, they market it to kids, because kids like Marvel.

          And that’s why I think Dave is walking out of WM30 with the title. Because I honestly think at this point, Vince cares more about advertising and kids than keeping his loyal fans happy.

          After all, if he is still keeping WWE PG despite the fact that you cannot watch a wrestling video anymore without seeing someone long for the Attitude Era in the comments section, what makes you think he won’t do something like this?

          It does suck for me, even though I know it’s going to happen, because I want Bryan to win the title so badly but I don’t think it’s ever going to happen. At least not until Summerslam at the soonest.

          I think Bryan’s handling is one of the most botched moves WWE had made in a while, but I sadly don’t think it’s going to change.

        • ted says:

          You mean nothing because wrestling won’t matter to some marvel fans? Even if they do you really think Batista’s fame will somehow skyrocket from him being champion? People will say oh Batista is the champ we have to see his movie? that he isn’t even the main character of? It doesn’t work like that.

          Put it to you like this if Hulk Hogan was champion when he made no holds barred you think it would of fared any better?

        • Heyo says:

          More like WWE going “Hey, are you excited for Guardians of the Galaxy? Well, we got one of the actors there as our champion!” It’s more about attracting people who would never watch WWE regularly and give them a reason to want to watch it, because Guardians is already getting a buzz as it is.

          It’s the kind of mentality that you could see in Drew Carey being in the 2001 Rumble, the difference is that the guy you’re using for publicity was actually a WWE wrestler before.

        • ted says:

          Yes because The drew carey show did poorly and they never did another ppv.

          It’s not working why can they not acknowledge that it simply isn’t working?

          I understand they want to cross promote but it’s failing.

          Can you imagine inviting a friend over showing them the 2014 rumble and saying “this guy is gonna be a superhero in the gog”. “You mean the one being booed out the building and flipping off the fans”? Truly an idol for the kids.

        • Heyo says:

          Like I said, I do want them to change plans and go with Bryan as champion. But at this point, I really don’t think they will, now that Bryan/HHH looks like it’s a go.

          Actually, is anyone scared that Bryan is facing HHH? I don’t see HHH letting Bryan win, at least not clean a la Billy Kidman winning dirty against Hogan in WCW.

        • ted says:

          If Bryan’s match with h doesn’t end with him putting his knee threw H’s face. Then Triple h’s ego is out of hand. No one would be able to justify that call without trolling.

  13. frank says:

    “It’s pretty clear that we’re heading towards HHH vs. Bryan in the showdown and there’s nothing wrong with that at all.”

    Wrong Bryan should still be winning the title at wrestlemania 30. Triple H is nowhere near a consolation prize to that.

  14. M.R. says:

    Curious, when’s the last time Hogan and Taker were on the same show?

    Also, I have NO clue what the plan is for the title match now that Bryan/Triple H is set.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      I believe the 15th anniversary back in 2007.

    • Heyo says:

      I think they’re actually going to try to keep pushing Batista/Orton for the title, if Bryan/HHH is happening.

      Give the creative staff credit, they have serious balls to keep going with that match. Or just lack brains. Maybe both.

    • ted says:

      Summerslam 2005 I believe was the last time taker and hogan were on the same show.

      It looks like right now at least. They don’t care about the reaction it will get. It was booked Orton, Batista, and you’ll like it! There is time to change it, but it seems less and less likely that they will.

      • M.R. says:

        There really isn’t much else to do with it now that Bryan’s officially facing Triple H. It’ll be interesting to see what closes the show.

        • andy says:

          I just don’t understand. Triple H and Vince are both smart guys. There is no reason not to have Bryan in the title match. Every sign in the world points to bryan leading 70 thousand plus in the worlds biggest yes chant title held high.

          The fans do not want batista you have him do something else. It’s not hard.

  15. Heyo says:

    Lesnar vs. Taker for Mania? That…I’m not sure if it’s going to be any good, but it has promise.

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