Monday Nitro – October 18, 1999: We Be Shooting!

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  1. Matt says:

    Ok, so I’ve been going through WWE/WCW in order since the 80’s. I’m now at this episode…

    I just…ok…

    WHY did Kimberly just randomly seduce David ON CAMERA (DDP doesn’t watch this?!) and show up with the intent on screwing his brains out…?

    Was she actually interested? Was she really attempting to cheat on DDP with David? Did I miss something? WTF?

  2. Jay H says:

    I kept thinking Jarrett showed up the night after Halloween Havoc but he went from Cleveland (where No Mercy was) to Philly (here) in the span of 24 Hours. I forgot it was that quick of a turn around for him going back to WCW.

  3. Gillberg!!! says:

    Not that I’m actually looking at the video, but it seems pretty good. You had a good World Title match, a good Tag Team match (with title change), and a good 3-way match, plus other stuff. And it’s good to see that Bret is, at last, getting title shots.

    I’m not sure why the hate for Luger in the main event; yes, he’s a big stiff, but he’s got more offense than Assberg and at least he (or his character) is permitted to sell stuff. (“Hey, let’s make this guy with two moves and no mic skills an unstoppable monster who not only wins every match but blasts people instantly, and nothing anybody does can even hurt him! It’s brilliant, I tell you, brilliant!” “Can we also keep name checking Georgia Tech and the Falcons and remind everybody that our hero had a one-second football career where nobody ever heard of him, he got hurt, and was cut by a terrible team? Because that won’t get old at ALL!”) But obviously, I’ve got my biases on that issue. Have to love the lawyer pretty much no-selling the spear, though.

    I think the “Outsiders drunk on cough syrup” is a way to poke fun at the constant criticism of Scott’s substance-abuse issues and say “no, really, he’s good now. We can work him into a long-form story, trust us.” See, he doesn’t do anything harder than cough syrup now, rehab worked! And Nash includes himself in the story as a bit of a mea culpa, because he feels he owes Scott (as he’s said, the only reason he was in WCW was that Hall negotiated “favored nations” status, that not only would Scott get “more money than Sting”, but so would anybody he brought in. Those big checks Nash is getting, the ones Vince McMahon couldn’t match? That’s Scott Hall’s work, so I understand Kev wanting to stay loyal), saying it’s on him, too. As silly as it is, this is just one part of Russo’s Big Plan coming together (along with Jarrett’s arrival and Bret finally getting a title match)…I don’t think it would be so bad if it wasn’t surrounded with *unnecessary* fluff, like evening gown matches and David Flair’s sex life. And there’s still less of this crap than there was on the Bischoff/Nash/Sullivan-booked shows we had to sit through, previously.

    Negative marks include the Filthy Animals acting like heels but not clearly being defined as such, too many backstage segments (SIX in a row at one point!) and Russo/Ferrara not having the discipline to keep out their extraneous ideas which they were probably frustrated at not being able to do everything they wanted under McMahon’s veto. It’s sort of like (really strained analogy) how when the Beatles broke up, George Harrison was so thrilled at not being limited to just one or two songs an album any more that he immediately put out a double album (triple if you count the live disc) rather than tightening it up and saving some stuff for future albums.

    I mean, Norman the Hardcore Coward is kind of funny, and you’re not the only one who was bored with “Hardcore” at this point. But is it necessary, with the company needing to build momentum again? Probably not, but R/F didn’t have the discipline to see it that way. And the women’s angle, which is only there to set up Ferrara’s petty revenge on Jim Ross via the “Oklahoma” character definitely should have been killed stone cold dead.

    Still, IMO definitely a move in the right direction. The only thing truly troubling is the Bagwell lay-down, a sign of Vinny’s ridiculous fondness for the worked shoot. There’s no reason Buff couldn’t have bitterly half-assed it (as you suggested he was) and walked out or even laid down while still maintaining a plausible veneer of kayfabe. The winking is so unnecessary; yes, we know it’s fake…now let us sit back and enjoy it, please. Sigh.

    • Heyo says:

      I understand from The Death of WCW that Nash and Hall were under contract until 2001, and that’s why they didn’t jump ship. Hell, if you remember X-Pac’s post-WM14 rant about how Nash and Hall “would be standing here if they weren’t being held hostage by WCW”, this is why. They WANTED to leave as far back as 1998, but couldn’t.

  4. Heyo says:

    Russo’s shows are like train wrecks full of sweaty muscular men: There’s occasionally fighting for a few seconds, but the rest is so horrific that a part of you wants to keep watching.

    Then you see there’s a train of muscular men that actually is fun to be on(Raw at this time) and you’re like “Why the hell am I still watching this?”

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