Smackdown – May 23, 2017: Do You Know the Way to St. Louis?

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37 Responses

  1. chad says:

    WWE title has been diminished since 1999

  2. Thomas Hall says:

    I’m not sold on Mahal as champion either but I do like the idea of them trying something fresh for a change.

  3. Dragon says:

    I see your contrast KB….but in all fairness I am not sayin Mahal is over at the level any where near Reigns or Austin or Rock…..I am just saying he is getting a better reaction than 75% of the Smackdown roster. I would sooner get a reaction because of my nationality than no reaction at all

    and wrestling 101 I never said Mahal is a great champion, learn to read buddy, I said give him a chance.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      It doesn’t have to be that level of interest. Rhyno is over, if nothing else because of his finisher.

      And yes, it’s absolutely better than getting no response. It’s also why I don’t see cheap heat as a bad thing. Getting booed because of something as simple as insulting a local sports team is better than people sitting on their hands.

    • Greg says:

      Then that means 75% of the roster, including Jinder, shouldn’t be champion. He only gets heat from cheap heat. That’s not world title material.

      They are booing cause he says bad stuff about America not because Jinder is interesting. The foreign heel role is overplayed and old. Wrestling doesn’t work like it used to.

      • Dragon says:

        Nothing wrong with cheap heat….in today’s day and age the world championship is just a prop, it doesn’t mean as much as it used too. Your right, wrestling doesn’t work like it used to….but if u can draw a crowd with cheap heat you will be on the card.

      • Thomas Hall says:

        I really don’t think it’s a stretch to say that the vast majority of the roster, at least in their current forms, shouldn’t be World Champion.

  4. wrestling101 says:

    Who is this ‘Dragon’ guy, and why does he keep banging on about what a great idea Mahal as champion is? Weird.

  5. Dragon says:

    So KB when someone is over the crowd is not reacting to them? That is not correct and doesn’t make sense. To be over the crowd must react a great deal either to cheer a face persona or a boo heel persona….I do not understand how when a crowd reacts to a character more then others it does not mean he is over. Explain this to me KB cause if I was to pick 3 best reactions from last night’s show they would be Nakamora, Styles, and Mahal…..other 2 guys seem over to me BECAUSE of the crowd reaction they get.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      Getting a reaction doesn’t mean you’re over. It means you did something that got people responding. The difference is a person who is over is getting reactions no matter what they do. Look at Roman Reigns, the Rock, Steve Austin, John Cena etc. Their name or face alone gets a reaction.

      In short, it’s the difference between the person getting reactions and what they do getting reactions.

  6. Dragon says:

    When a crowd is booing a superstar to high heaven, or cheering them as loud as they can….that is a success in WWE’s eyes…..the source of the reaction does not matter….if the crowd is reacting and having a good time booing/cheering that is all that matters and that is the foundation of the live wrestling event. I deeply hate Enzo Amore and he is a terrible in ring performer but he gets a great crowd reaction so he is a WWE employee that is doing his job. Just because a wrestler is getting “cheap heat” so what….it worked for Iron Sheik, Sgt. Slaughter, Ivan and Nikita Koloff, Nikolai Volkoff, Krusher Krushchev, Col. DeBeers ect…..they utilized the “cheap” foreign gimmick and made a decent living out of it.

  7. Dragon says:

    Cheap heat is ok if the character is being played well, and when Jinder stepped out of the car, the crowd were relentless and all he did was stand up. He is playing the part well and will flesh out his character even more much like JBL did when he suddenly became a millionaire overnight. He has a few weeks to prove everyone wrong and if he doesn’t hold up then he can be beaten for the title. The title is far from destroyed, like you fanboys keep whining about, it will be here many years after Jinder Mahal’s reign and btw that Championship hasn’t meant what it once did anyway since 2001.

  8. Dragon says:

    Jinder Mahal as world champion is not a bad thing. He is getting the most heat out of any heel on the roster and that’s a good thing…..some wrestlers these days are getting no reaction at all. It obviously won’t please everyone but for the reaction it is getting and with everyone talking about it, it is a success thus far……even the Bollywood Boyz are getting some excellent heat as well.

    • Greg says:

      Cause generic evil foreign heat means that he is so over.

      David Arquette got people talking. Wasn’t a good thing.

      • Dragon says:

        actually it does mean that he is over,

        and David Arquette is a very poor comparison….he was not a performer on the roster but a celebrity trying to sell a feature film.

        Nice try though

        • Greg says:

          Cheap heat says hi. Cheap heat isn’t real heat.

          The point of using Arquette was to illustrate just because people are talking does not mean it is good or it worked.

        • Thomas Hall says:

          Reactions don’t mean over. Reactions are reactions.

      • Jay H (the real one) says:

        Greg are you really comparing Jindar Mahal (an actual Wrestler) to David Arquette (an actor)? You really are reaching now.

        • Greg says:

          You missed the point. By a mile.

          Using him as an example of how getting people talking isn’t always a good thing.

  9. M.R. says:

    How concerned should they be about these ratings? And please save any excuse involving the NBA.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      Somewhat, though there are a lot of other metrics that mean a great deal. Network subscribers, stock price etc. THe ratings are a problem but the NBA is indeed causing them problems.

      • M.R. says:

        The NBA’s ratings haven’t even been all that impressive, and that’s assuming large amounts of basketball/wrestling crossover, so that’s just an excuse. The Network numbers aren’t going to be great if people aren’t even watching the free tv WWE produces. I don’t believe any figures the WWE releases independently.

        • Bloodbuzz Bunk says:

          A lot of is just the changing dynamics of tv. The massive drop in network tv ratings do to increased competition from endless cable tv options and variety of programming has finally started to trickle down to cable tv shows ratings because cable tv is now not only fighting network tv and every other cable network but they are also fighting cord cutting and VOD services like Netflix.

          WWE is slipping up in that it’s losing what was thought be it’s core audience or absolute ratings floor. This suggests that they are actively making viewers tune out or perhaps the core wasn’t as big as we all thought it was. WWE is still making money on the tours but attendance is starting to slip. They need to develop a couple new stars asap.

          I also wouldn’t be shocked if some of this drop in viewership can be attributed to people watching the condensed Hulu versions of the shows or WWE network viewers.

  10. Isaiah Morrow says:

    How do you think the hypocrisy of the ICW community would take effect here with Mahal being champion in WWE when he could have been Impact champion in Impact as he was scouted by them (obvioisly for the same reason, to get an indian wrestler pushed for their india tour). So with WWE fans its like “okay we get it, hes not the greatest but its for the sake of the tour” but then if this would have ever happejed in Impact everyone would be disgusted that a WWE jobber won the belt.

    • Greg says:

      Um, I’m disgusted he won the title. A lot of people are. There’s no defense to this.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      The same thing I’ve said before: WWE and TNA are in very different places. WWE can get away with a lot of things TNA can’t.

  11. Thomas Hall says:

    Smackdown’s are setting new records for futility as well.

  12. M.R. says:

    Since you brought it up, what type of ratings do Raw and Smackdown pull these days, anyways?

  13. Aeon Mathix says:

    So…I take it we are just going to see Becky vs charlotte every month until the rumble or next superstar shakeup? You know cause there’s like not a division on either show and they ran Sasha and charlotte into the ground last year for the same reason.

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