I Want To Talk A Little Bit About Triple H

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  1. #MrScissorsKick says:

    “Soon after HHH started a feud with Brock Lesnar, leading to a match at Summerslam 2011. Again it was good but not all that great.”

    I believe HHH vs Lesnar was at SummerSlam 2012, Mr. KB.

  2. Thomas Hall says:

    Read the Uncensored 1996 review.

  3. Thomas Hall says:

    ….no, you don’t.

    Based on that, Austin or Hogan never put anyone at their peak as no one was ever on their level at the top of their careers.

  4. Jay H. (the real one) says:

    Awesome write up KB and you brought up alot of good points. I get also get tired of his push only came when he married Stephanie but like you said he was going to be a main guy anyway long before that.

    I also agree that who else at the time when the WHC was brought back were they going to give it to? RVD? Maybe he could have gotten it,Booker T? He was still working his way up post-Invasion,Jericho? Possibly but his time on top was/is more of transnational guy.

    When it comes down to it HHH does put alot of guys over on the Big Stages and he will put over Daniel Bryan at WM 30 this year.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      Booker or RVD would have been fine. It wouldn’t have needed to be a long reign. Just something for a breath of air from HHH.

      • M.R. says:

        Why not Jericho? I always thought he was completely underutilized during that stretch and could have easily seen him as the main protagonist against Triple H and Evolution. Literally anyone would have been a better choice than Steiner.

  5. Thomas Hall says:

    To be fair they chant for JBL too.

    The promos and phrases could apply to a bunch of people.

    The problem for Savage is he didn’t have the longevity at the top. It’s similar to Hogan and Austin. Hogan didn’t reach the peak that Austin did, but he was on top for a longer stretch and is a bigger star as a result.

    • M.R. says:

      I try telling people Hogan is the biggest star of all time, but Austin’s the greatest star of all time. It’s all semantics, but it makes sense in my head.

    • zappa says:

      Now your getting into opinions. You have stated that whoever draws the most money is biggest star. I don’t agree but on that premise Austin is the biggest star period.

      The randy savage chants started well before the jbl ones. When you get right down to it Randy savage will go down as one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. For a number of reasons, some of which have been discussed here ad nauseum, Triple H will not be on that list. Difficult to swallow for some but it is the way of things.

  6. Thomas Hall says:

    That would be an even more boring trilogy and not a logical idea. Hence why it wouldn’t be a realistic option.

  7. zappa says:

    There’s no denying that HHH isn’t great, but he’s at the top of the second tier of wrestlers like Bret, Shawn, Orton and Savage.

    • zappa says:

      “There’s no denying that HHH isn’t great, but he’s at the top of the second tier of wrestlers like Bret, Shawn, Orton and Savage.”

      Triple H wishes he could draw more money, be a bigger star, and have a bigger legacy than randy savage.

      • Thomas Hall says:

        Unfortunately he does have a bigger legacy than Savage. I’d rather watch Savage any day, but HHH has meant more through longevity alone.

        • zappa says:

          I disagree. Randy savage has been dead for 3 years and is still one of the biggest stars of all time. The fans still chant for him, they have demanded he go in the hall fame for the last 10 years. His trademark elbow used by two of the all time greats. Promos and catchphrases that everyone in wrestling knows 20+ years later.

          Don’t misunderstand Triple H is a fine talent. He’s just not on the same level of randy savage. The fact that he’s in management now and will be around for years to come. Does not mean, He means more than an all time great. Triple H’s career may be longer but I doubt it will have the same impact on camera.

    • Dark Grin says:

      I wouldn’t say he’s at the top of that tier. Remove Orton completely IMO and I’d say he’s the bottom of that tier. That being said, that’s still a damn good place to be career-wise.

  8. frank says:

    ” Poor HHH was dead in the water until they retooled his look, his tights, his music, his entourage, his interview style, his nickname and his personal relationships. But aside from that, he got over 100% on his own. ” Credit scott keith

    couldn’t have said it better myself.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      Dead in the water is a bit of a stretch but the blue blood character had taken him about as far as it could have.

      • ted says:

        I’m not sure I agree. He was being pushed well against the wishes of fans who found him dull. Did he improve? No question. However he assertion of getting over all on his own is very incorrect.

  9. LSN says:

    I agree. I think he’s been second to Cena in doing this. Any wrestler Cena has had a prolonged feud with or a big match with has come out of it far better then when they came in. HHH is second behind John Cena in doing this, which isn’t a bad place to be.

  10. Killjoy says:

    Went it comes to putting talent over, I don’t think anyone has done it better than Triple H. Just look back at how he’s put over Jeff Hardy, Batista, John Cena, Sheamus, Chris Benoit and so on. Look at how he’ll put over Daniel Bryan. When he picks them, he sets them for life.

    • ted says:

      At what point did he put over sheamus? When he beat him at wrestlemania 26? Or when he would only lose to a guy twice his size and half his age after being assaulted backstage? Or how about when Triple H came back to challenge taker to wrestlemania 28. He proceeded to beat Sheamus to a pulp on raw treating him like an afterthought.

      H has put people over Sheamus is not one of them at least not on camera.

      • Killjoy says:

        Sheamus ended Triple H’s full time active career. And he’s the only man to injure Triple H as a story besides Randy Orton. The fact that said “injury” lasted nearly a year is huge.

        • ted says:

          Negligible Triple is still having matches making this “retirement” meaningless. The fact of the matter is Even when Sheamus did get the upper hand, which again only came from injury beforehand. The win did not end up meaning much. It’s just as much the fault of a bad followup. As it is beating triple h just not being as important anymore.

      • Thomas Hall says:

        You don’t have to win a match to be put over.

        • ted says:

          True but you do have to be perceived as an equal or better to the person your involved with. I don’t believe that ever happened.

  11. Killjoy says:

    A face pinning another face isn’t too good an idea. Triple H was sent to Smackdown that time period for ratings in the first place. And at the end of the day, Jeff didn’t do much good with his push. Besides, Triple H set Hardy up twice as a major deal with the wins in 2001 and Armageddon 2007.

    • ted says:

      Do not act like the 4 day intercontinental title win did jeff hardy any favours. The story was set up so that jeff was not his equal. once he faced triple h again he was destroyed. Jeff was not elevated in anyway by that association, and was right back in tag teams for the next year and a half.

  12. #MrScissorsKick says:

    This was a very good read KB.

  13. zappa says:

    Triple H just isn’t as important as he or the company thinks he is. He’s a serviceable hand but not “the guy” not now not ever.

    ” HHH getting the win at Wrestlemania was the only logical way to do the trilogy” Um why?

    I don’t think people would have as big a problem with him if he didn’t try to pretend to be more important or influential as he was/is.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      You can’t have Brock go 0-2 and if he wins the first two matches, there’s no point making a trilogy.

      • zappa says:

        So why couldn’t brock beat him twice and be done with it? as that’s what he did anyway? Triple H doesn’t need any more wins and it didn’t do brock any favours losing.

        • Thomas Hall says:

          Hence why I said it was the only way to do a trilogy.

        • ted says:

          Not true. just because It’s the way it’s always been done. doesn’t mean it can’t be done another way. Lesnar could of beaten him 3 times if they had to 3 matches. Would Triple H even care? Come back in six months and acts like he still won anyway.

  14. Thriller says:

    The Jeff Hardy thing still bugs me. He couldn’t be pinned for Jeff to win the title, it had to be a triple threat with the other guy getting pinned. It’s even more frustrating because the focus was on Jeff winning, not who lost.

    • rocko says:

      Really? That is an incredibly stupid thing to complain about.

    • Dark Grin says:

      The focus should always be on the winner, not the loser IMO. Hardy finally breaking through the glass celing is exactly what the entire program was about. Focus should’ve have been on him.

  15. deanerandterry says:

    Triple H is a guy you can love, hate or feel both feelings at the same time. My biggest issue with Triple H is he isn’t as good as the WWE pretends he is, sometimes I question if he is the right guy to take Vince’s spot (strictly creative. Business wise he’ll be fine), I feel his politics have hurt the business at times (although for a top guy he’s more innocent than most). All of those worries/gripes are fairly reasonable but outside of that its only fair to give him some praise.

    He is a great wrestler, he earned his success for the most part and for all the shit he gets for marrying Steph its often overlooked that there was a much better chance of them breaking up then there was them getting married and if that happened Triple H could have very well thrown hus career away. Sure it worked out for the guy but in what is my biggest compliment I could give the guy, he has balls and having the balls he did often contributed to his success and often balls is what a person needs to be successful. There are better wrestlers than HHH, some weren’t nearly as successful as Triple H but they didn’t have the drive HHH did either and sometimes that makes the biggest difference.

    HHH made a lot of ballsy moves in his career, those moves often paid off for him and I think he deserves a lot of credit for that, most people wouldn’t have that courage and it was ultimately that courage that had made him the future king of the WWE. Although there’s a lot of negative attached to Triple H there should be no question he earned his keep.

  16. M.R. says:

    You forgot the most irritating thing about the Summerslam match against Brock: They were equals. Brock had spent the entire Extreme Rules match basically squashing Cena with Cena picking up the fluke win, whereas Triple H and Brock battled it out like two guys on the same level.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      This is true. It drove me crazy when I watched it a few years back. HHH even won a slugout I believe.

  17. rocko says:

    I feel him dominating Raw wasn’t entirely his fault. RVD should have been bigger but feuding with Nash, Goldberg and Steiner really did not help. There wasn’t much he could get out of them.

  18. Marlene's Disaster says:

    That match with Khali saves him from a lot of criticism. I remember dreading that match and finding myself glued to the TV seeing how HHH was going to pull this off. He can have that epic match, but he tends to overload on story instead of just having that physical war. His Batista feud was a prime example of that. Their WM match was mediocre but that HIAC match at Vengeance was an all out war. That’s why I was so pissed at the Lesnar feud. He can have that match, but you can tell he overloaded with too much storytelling and not enough brutality. That’s what you want from a match with HHH and Lesnar.

    Great write up. HHH is still one of my favorites and his heel run from 1999-2001 remains as one of the top heel runs ever in wrestling.

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