TNA One Night Only: Global Impact Japan: The Bound For Glory Preview

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  1. Rocko says:

    I should have used a one off guy as an example and not Tensai. My bad. My point was about one off guys so choosing Tensai was stupid.

  2. Thomas Hall says:

    Kane and Katie went to a party one night, Katie was too drunk to drive home, Kane drove and wrecked and Katie died. It was a promo on Raw. I don’t know what else you want them to say.

    Not really. Vince said on the Benoit tribute show that it wasn’t real and didn’t feel right to continue in light of real life events.

    Agreed.

    “Hornswoggle was the Raw G.M. all along.” That’s an explanation. It’s just not a very good one. No confusion though.

    Tim White saying he can’t handle life after what he went through in the Cell is a pretty good explanation to me.

    In other words, most of these can be explained if you listen to the shows. They may not be entertaining or good, but they’re explained.

    As for Tensai, you know he was dangerous because he beat Punk and Cena. Again, not complicated.

  3. Thomas Hall says:

    Unless it’s TNA, where the commentators are there to make stupid jokes that only they laugh at and read ads for kickboxing shows.

    • Killjoy says:

      I actually liked a couple of the tidbits. I’ve also been a fan of Taz’s stupid jokes.

      Also, did you notice the completely American crowd with white rails spliced in during the show with the Japanese crowd and black rails? Totally blended. With the rowdy American’s being totally mute.

  4. ted says:

    “Sure it is. You’re missing the point. I hate to use a cliche like this, but it’s the principle of the thing. TNA, or whatever company, should be able to make me care about these people. Otherwise, I’m just bored sitting here watching what might be a good match.”

    1. The principle of the thing. Makes you sound like an entitled brat.

    2. If it is a good match why are you bored?

    “As far as research, it’s not that simple. I need to see these people or hear their story and find a reason to care about them. Tenay told me that Kai beat two guys in a tournament to get the show. They were just names that mean nothing to me I don’t know if they’re good, if they’re top stars, or if Kai squashed two no names to get where he is.”

    Why isn’t it? You could literally find the answers to that during a commercial.

    “That’s three people I have to look up, and that’s assuming a Wikipedia article is enough information. It’s turning into some big project so I can watch a two hour and forty five minute show.”

    A few minutes research is a big project? You don’t think that sounds lazy?

    “On the other hand, look at someone like Sanada. He has a backstory, vignettes and matches to give me a reason to care about him and it’s worked. Kai is someone that I haven’t seen or heard of before and the match didn’t make me want to see him again. Why should I waste my time doing research about recreation?”

    This is somewhat a fair point. I mean no you wouldn’t want to do research on someone you don’t enjoy. But who’s to say all the wrestlers are like him?

    “I have no problem with Meltzer liking whatever. I have a problem with him being this golden standard for wrestling ratings.”

    I imagine it’s a seniority thing.

    I’ve seen you write ” but I’m sure some match in japan is better” Than whichever match you are reviewing. It just seems odd you would make the comparison without seeing said match. It would be one thing to say you just don’t like Japanese or lucha wrestling. But to suggest it’s better without seeing the matches it’s compared to makes no sense.

    Though it is valid to not like meltzer.

    • Rocko says:

      So basically what you are saying is it would be okay for a TV show to never explain anything and the only way to figure out what is going on is to look online of which the explanation may or may not be there?

      If nothing is explained, why would we care? If there is no prior backstory or introduction how do we know who that person is or what is going on? Why do we have to do the work ourselves because the writers are too lazy? Would a causal fan do that? No.

      • Thomas Hall says:

        This is pretty much my reply. If a fan gets lost while watching a show, they’re probably going to change the channel. THis is an area where WWE is really the best in the world. You can bet that there’s going to be a recap, a replay, or an explanation as to why this match is happening. There’s rarely a reason to be really confused when watching a WWE event.

        • Killjoy says:

          Wrestling is like any other TV show. If you can’t relate to the characters or aren’t intrigued by the plot, how can you invest in anything going on? Just like an episode recap, it’s why commentators are there. To fill you in on what’s going on.,

      • ted says:

        Rocko
        If nothing is explained, why would we care?

        The match is good? You can very easily tell who you like watching and who you don’t?

        “if there is no prior backstory or introduction how do we know who that person is or what is going on?”

        Research? Common sense? The announcers?

        Why do we have to do the work ourselves because the writers are too lazy?

        If you liked it you wouldn’t consider it work to keep up on it.

        ” Would a causal fan do that? No.”

        No one here is a casual fan. As for the one’s that aren’t. Your statement is to broad. Would most? maybe not. But of the one’s that won’t, they don’t like wrestling anyway. On top of that on average wrestling really isn’t that hard to follow.

        There’s rarely a reason to be really confused when watching a WWE event.

        Katie vick angle

        Vince McMahon death.

        Vince McMahon million dollar giveaway apprant death

        Anonymous raw g.m. reveal

        Tim white suicide angle.

        • Thomas Hall says:

          Explained

          Dropped

          Never explained

          Stupid

          Explained

        • Rocko says:

          Well if the best wrestler from Monaco comes out of nowhere and breaks Undertaker’s streak at Wrestlemania instead of Lesnar and during the match the announcers said “wow this guy is great, he beat some other really good guys.” Oh and the match was decent and the guy from Monaco will never be on WWE TV again. Would you care? Would that entertain you? Would a guy from Monaco be common sense?

          Why do I, as a weekly watcher of a TV show, have to do my own research to figure why someone is important? If I didn’t watch it weekly and I had no idea who someone is, that would be my fault and not something I can complain about. However if I watch every week, then I should be able to understand and care about the characters. I shouldn’t have to do any extra work. The job of the writers is to make me care enough to want to watch their show. It is not my job to figure why I should care about the show. I don’t get paid for it. Writers do. You are right about why would I watch if I didn’t care. Well I haven’t watched consecutive TNA in over a year or so. I’m just not interested by it. The only way I actually know what happens in TNA is because of KB’s reviews.

          Tensai is a good example (well the best I could think of off the top of my head). Tensai was built and built by the announcers as being incredibly dangerous. How do I know that’s true? Why should I care if the only people who are telling me if he is good are the announcers? If I started to research him and look at what he had done the past few years, it would be very time consuming. I would have to look at what he did in Japan. Then look at who he beat. Then I would have to find out if the guys he beat were important. Which would make me look up who those guys beat. Then after all of that, I can finally believe what the announcers were saying. That’s not something I can do in 1 minute.

          We may not be a casual fan (though my scope of watching is WWE and every once in a blue moon, TNA), but most people are (I consider a casual fan to be someone who watches the show and doesn’t look the show up online or do anything else but just watch it). If KB barely knows who the guy is, how would a majority of the fans? Why would they care about someone they never heard of and never will see again? Casual fans do care about wrestling. It’s like how I’m a casual fan of many TV shows but wrestling is the only one I look up online. I don’t do this for other shows that I watch but I still like watching them.

          Wrestling is not hard to follow. That is true. But I don’t get why that matters. Just because it is easy to follow, doesn’t mean I care about Takashi Minbongo just because the announcers tell me too. I need to see the guy in storylines first before I start caring.

          There could just be a differing mindset between us. I care more about how good the story is first and the match quality second. I’m guessing you look at the match quality first and then the story.

        • ted says:

          “KB says”

          “Explained”

          Not very well

          “Dropped”

          So Never explained which leads to confusion

          “Never explained”
          Exactly

          “Stupid”
          So not explained.

          “Explained”

          No it really wasn’t.

          Tensai is a good example (well the best I could think of off the top of my head). Tensai was built and built by the announcers as being incredibly dangerous. How do I know that’s true? Why should I care if the only people who are telling me if he is good are the announcers? If I started to research him and look at what he had done the past few years, it would be very time consuming. I would have to look at what he did in Japan. Then look at who he beat. Then I would have to find out if the guys he beat were important. Which would make me look up who those guys beat. Then after all of that, I can finally believe what the announcers were saying. That’s not something I can do in 1 minute.

          Look him up. Find out he used to work for the wwe. Adjust expectation accordingly. Two mins tops.

          Why do you need to believe what the announcers are telling you? Are you incapable of forming your own opinion? You see a wrestler you’ve never seen before, and have no back story. You watch him work, use his gimmick. Decide if you like him or not.

          “If KB barely knows who the guy is, how would a majority of the fans?”

          Why would they care if they know him or not? They would either be entertained by the match, and or promos. Or not.

          The announcers will tell you what you need to know. From that you form your own opinion. If you don’t like the wrestler that’s fine. But to suggest You need to find out who this person beat or when. Would be important to a casual fan is ludicrous. They don’t put that much thought into it. As non casual fans we do. Thus Research.

          “There could just be a differing mindset between us. I care more about how good the story is first and the match quality second. I’m guessing you look at the match quality first and then the story.”

          This could be true. I don’t have anything against people who demand storyline to enjoy wrestling. I’ve always just cared about the performance more. To me that’s what it’s all for anyway.

          I’m not saying I don’t like storyline. I’m just saying it’s not always needed for me to enjoy what I’m watching. I can turn on wrestling from anywhere and enjoy it without having a clue who the wrestlers are, or why they are feuding. Nothing against those who can’t.

  5. ted says:

    It’s not like your the average fan. Your clearly have more than a passing interest in wrestling. A little research wouldn’t hurt you. Or anyone else these days. With technology what it is. Info on wresting has never been easier.

    It’s the same reason I don’t understand your mini crusade against meltzer liking a Japan or Mexico match ahead of a north American one. Much less if you’ve never seen it.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      Sure it is. You’re missing the point. I hate to use a cliche like this, but it’s the principle of the thing. TNA, or whatever company, should be able to make me care about these people. Otherwise, I’m just bored sitting here watching what might be a good match. Back in 1996, I didn’t know a thing about Rey Mysterio but his matches blew me away and I wanted to see more. WIth the guys on this show, the matches were decent but nothing I’d go out of my way to see.

      As far as research, it’s not that simple. I need to see these people or hear their story and find a reason to care about them. Tenay told me that Kai beat two guys in a tournament to get the show. They were just names that mean nothing to me. I don’t know if they’re good, if they’re top stars, or if Kai squashed two no names to get where he is. That’s three people I have to look up, and that’s assuming a Wikipedia article is enough information. It’s turning into some big project so I can watch a two hour and forty five minute show.

      On the other hand, look at someone like Sanada. He has a backstory, vignettes and matches to give me a reason to care about him and it’s worked. Kai is someone that I haven’t seen or heard of before and the match didn’t make me want to see him again. Why should I waste my time doing research about recreation?

      I have no problem with Meltzer liking whatever. I have a problem with him being this golden standard for wrestling ratings.

  6. ted says:

    “It was a pretty good main event style match, but the problem I have with this is the problem I have with almost all shows like this: who is Kai and why should I care about him? Yeah I know he won a tournament, but I have no connection to Kai, have never seen one of his matches or heard him talk. All I know about him I learned in the last fifteen minutes of hearing Tenay and Taz and watching this one match. Wrestling is about connecting with performers, be it through promos or through their matches. With nothing to go off, there’s no reason for me to care about Kai.”

    Do some research.

    • Rocko says:

      He shouldn’t have too. You are 100% wrong on this.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      What Rocko said. If I’m paying TNA for the show and watching Impact, my work is done. I’ve invested my time and money into their product. I’m not going to spend even more time looking someone up because TNA suddenly wants to work with a company that isn’t even a year old for some crossover appeal that may or may not be there at all.

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