Monday Night Raw – May 25, 2015: It All Comes Crashing Down

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30 Responses

  1. M.R. says:

    Triple H eating up too much screentime and ruining Raw? That’s new. Trips and Steph are no Vince when it comes to screen presence that’s for sure.

  2. Vega says:

    So if Rusev is toast either way, why didn’t the rub go to someone who could be elevated by it? At least let it rest after Mania then. That’s what I don’t get a lot of the time. A potential Rock – Lesnar match would be the epitome of it (quick cash grab for making the roster look second rate for two years), but there are smaller instances like this where I just don’t get it.

  3. Jay H (the real one) says:

    That was the best RAW I’ve seen all year. Entertaining promos, and the matches were excellent. I am so pumped for the PPV on Sunday this is going to be the best PPV of the year.

    • Jay H (the real one) says:

      So a couple things here.

      1.Pretty sure I didn’t call it the Best RAW all year.

      2.EC is not a PPV but a Network Special. Glad we could clear that up.

      3.Are we still doing this? 2012 called they want their gag back. As if it was ever funny to begin with.

  4. Crow says:

    Never said it was good…but I’d rather it be bad and quick, than bad and exhausting.

  5. Thomas Hall says:

    He’ll be fine if he is a monster in the Chamber. I don’t think anyone sane ever expected him to be a serious threat to the World Title or anything like that. For a guy like Rusev, the upper midcard is about as high as you can get. That being said, this drop is entirely on tonight’s stupid booking instead of Rusev or anything that he’s done.

    • Heyo says:

      That’s more or less where I’m going with this. It seems like whenever or an up-and-comer feuds with Cena and he’s lost, really stupid booking on WWE’s end kicks in and he gets buried within the same calender year.

      This isn’t the case all the time(Bryan beat Cena clean in 2013 and later became a main event player) but it happens enough that it’s not encouraging.

      • Vega says:

        Bryan, like Punk, defeated Cena, which is a very different thing. Orton traded wins so he’s a different case as well.

        Cena is the perceived glass ceiling, breaking it means you’re special, failing to do so means you belong to the midcard slump. There is no midcard structure, so you’re either as good as Cena or as good as everyone else. Those who haven’t failed against him (yet) are called main eventers. That’s why I don’t think a loss against Cena does anything for you, and a win often does a lot. It’s emphasized by my second point.

        Cena, the character, is incapable of change: He won’t come out of a clash different than he came in. This it true on a small scale with matches and on a larger scale with feuds. A victory doesn’t make him look damaged or weakened, it makes him look happy and unstressed. The end of a feud means square one. And Cena doesn’t possess the psychology of, say, Bret Hart to lose something in victory (and that’s not a knock).

        It doesn’t help that most of the time WWE isn’t satisfied with one loss and tries to drive the point of Cena being superior home over several months.

  6. Aeon Mathix says:

    I would like to point out that anyone who thought Rusev would have been something special and not just another Kozlov or whatever is in fact an idiot.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      So I’m an idiot?

      • Eric says:

        To be fair bud, this is the type of guy that gets built up to lose to a top face. That’s the shelf life of a character like this. Where do you go after that with any of these basic characters?

      • Aeon Mathix says:

        I would think you more than anyone would have known what was going to happen to Rusev once he lost a big feud.

        • Thomas Hall says:

          He was going fine when they announced him as part of the Chamber. Then tonight happened and he was basically standing in the ring with a big boom box begging Lana to come back.

      • Heyo says:

        This, in a nutshell, is why the whole “guys will get a rub fighting Cena for the US title” argument doesn’t work: Seemingly everyone he works with not named Orton will get buried in the long term. The Cena feud is always what starts it.

        • Thomas Hall says:

          This wasn’t a burial because, as I’ve explained before, you can’t get buried in one night.

        • Eric says:

          No burial at all. Just a character like that is made to lose to a Cena. That’s the ceiling. The ONLY thing I could foresee that MIGHT work is upping the anti-America stuff, maybe with a tag team partner. That’s about all I can see.

        • Heyo says:

          Oh, I’m not arguing that Cena alone buried Rusev. More like it’s looking more and more like it marked the BEGINNING of his burial as a serious contender.

        • Eric says:

          He was never going to be a serious contender. He was going to be a monster that eventually gets beat by a monster killer, which is what he did. After that, you have to find a different angle. As I said, maybe an anti-America group where he could be the muscle or maybe just a tag team with that sort of theme. That’s really all you can hope for with a character like that. If you thought this was a future world champion or something, that was never going to be the case.

  7. John says:

    Waiting for Jay to say how great this show was and defending it.

  8. Crow says:

    Oddly enough, I thought even though it was a bad match kind of night, the show went pretty fast.

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