Monday Night Raw – May 15, 2017: For Once, This Show Didn’t Take A……Dive

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23 Responses

  1. Greg9911 says:

    My pick to win the #1 contender 5 way match at extreme rules is… anyone other than reigns. Im guessing balor. Who will lose to Lesnar .

  2. Bloodbuzz Bunk says:

    Hey M.R.
    But isn’t it also just your opinion that he is an awesome worker? There has got to be some kind agreeable objective measure or we can actually describe our opinions instead of just stating them as fact. I ask for recent examples of his work that far surpass the work of the guys on the indies he is critiquing but you are not giving me any.

    • M.R. says:

      I don’t feel the need, if you don’t like Orton’s matches that’s fine. The majority of internet fans don’t understand concepts like building a match and prefer indy guys who simply showcase their athleticism rather than tell a story. It’s all preference.

      • Bloodbuzz Bunk says:

        I think Indy wrestlers do tell stories especially more so with their in ring work than a guy like Orton does. The guy literally phones it in because he knows he will get the big pop on the RKO and just takes the night off.

        There is a misconception that indie workers don’t tell stories and are just spot monkeys which is so stupid that it needs to be stomped out. Where do you think 80% of the roster learned how to wrestle and tell a story within a match?

  3. BestSportsEntertainer says:

    “If the fans were really chanting for Punk and Jeter, good grief get over yourselves. The northeast is supposed to be this hot bed for indy wrestling and you have WWE giving you a freaking cruiserweight division but LET’S CHANT FOR OTHER SPORTS! That’s going to make WWE love the cruiserweights so much and the little guys are going to be SO over with the office. Well done you bunch of pompous twits.”

    Completely agree with this.

    People complain about Triple H going over, and they do have a good point.

    But… then they go out and try to get themselves over.

    No wonder WWE doesn’t care what we smarks think.

  4. Bloodbuzz Bunk says:

    Off topic but since you brought ….dive, wouldn’t that criticism stick more if the WWE’s endorser of it wasn’t Randy Orton. I can name two B or higher grade matches Orton has had in like 26 months. Seriously Orton may want to adapt some of that formula and try to get Jinder Mahal over because what he has been doing hasn’t been working recently.

    • Greg says:

      Obviously the point Orton was going for went way over your head.

      • Bloodbuzz Bunk says:

        I don’t think it did tbh. Rip Rogers pointed out a common formula in indie wrestling which doesn’t always have the benefit of serialized to tv to tell long term stories and Orton picked out the ….dive portion of it to make clear his distaste of high flying moves. Seeing as he just had two of the most widely panned ppv matches of the year I think he is no position to mock a formula or someone else’s athletic ability to dive to tell an in ring story.

        • Greg says:

          The point did go over your head. He doesn’t despise high flying moves.

          You don’t need TV to tell stories.

    • M.R. says:

      Orton’s a better worker than anybody on the indy scene, which should go without saying but alot of internet fans don’t understand how a good match works.

      • Bloodbuzz Bunk says:

        Seriously I know a good match when I see one and I have seen a lot of great matches in 2017 alone and Orton hasn’t been anywhere near one in a singles capacity. The man is living off his reputation. I can name you the last two really good singles matches he has had in the last 2 years, against Harper at EC and Rollins at WM31 and I dare you to find me any more of those in that time frame.

  5. comadre says:

    Do they have any other ideas to set up a number 1 challenger besides a 4 or 5 way? These matches were really overdone in the last couple of months…

  6. M.R. says:

    I’m missing the “dive” joke..?

  7. Sagar says:

    Recommend everyone to watch the Finn Balor documentary on the WWE Network that they just aired. One of the best they have ever done. It’s intimate and takes you through his journey all the way from Ireland to Japan to USA. Made me root for Balor even more than earlier. However, I hope he doesn’t win the 5-way coz I don’t wanna see him vs. Lesnar yet on a throwaway PPV which Balor will surely lose.

    About RAW, it was better than previous weeks but still nothing great. Balor vs Reigns stood out as did Alexa Bliss and Bayley segment. Rest was same old. Judging by the activity on social media and the comments online, I think the rating is not gonna be any better than last few shows. Pity.

  8. Jay H (the real one) says:

    KB I am right there with you on the Jersey crowd chanting for Derek Jeter and whatever else they were doing during the Cruiserweight Match. Just unreal when you have those 4 guys working hard and you got that going on.

    Anyway a much better RAW than last week and Extreme Rules is shaping up pretty well including the 5 Way for the shot at Brock Lesnar.

  9. Aeon Mathix says:

    Sorry I don’t buy Reigns as having a chance against Balor mere weeks after coughing up blood and half his upper body bandaged up. The announcers even played it up that even though Reigns was battered and bruised he still won.

    • Greg says:

      Daniel Bryan won with a taped up shoulder against HHH. He then beat Batista and Orton. He did this after getting two finishers through a table simultaneously.

      Wrestling doesn’t use normal logic.

    • Jerichoholic94 says:

      At the beginning of the show he wasn’t even bandaged up.

      Alexa’s mic skills are on fire though 100%.

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