Wrestle Kingdom XII: Aww Here It Goes

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  1. tanaka says:

    The referee throws the match out because he has lost control of it.

    I suppose he could also just allow Jericho to hold him there till the time limit expires and declare a draw, being the referee it would be at his discretion.

  2. Pickle says:

    The Jericho/Omega rope breaks followed the standard logic that I’ve always seen from other companies. I just don’t think I’ve ever seen both displayed so blatantly in one match.

    Obviously in a no-DQ match a wrestler can keep a hold on in the ropes to wear down an opponent without getting DQ’d for it.

    However, as far as I’ve always understood, pinfalls and submissions are interrupted by rope breaks in everything but falls count anywhere matches, because the rules classify rope breaks as one opponent being out of the ring. If the opponent is out of the ring, the fall doesn’t count, even when it’s no DQ. This is why there have been rope breaks in some WWE no DQ matches, triple threats, etc.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      That still doesn’t make sense though. Even if the fall doesn’t count, couldn’t someone keep a hold on outside the ring, including in the ropes? If there’s no DQ, what authority does the referee have to break it?

      • Killjoy says:

        I guess Count Out counts as something else. It’s weird.

      • tanaka says:

        The ref could throw out the match entirely and declare a no contest.

      • Pickle says:

        Yeah, if there’s no-DQ then you can keep a hold on, which is why Jericho kept it on for at least 10 seconds, yelled at the ref and didn’t get disqualified. The ref could count all he wanted, but if Omega hadn’t broken out of the hold, Jericho could have kept it on all night.

        But if Omega tapped it wouldn’t have counted because it was in the ropes. Just like pinfalls didn’t count later in the match,

  3. Yaz says:

    I watched the main events. What I liked most about Jericho/Omega is that Jericho realized he is 47 and not able to go like he used to so they used the relaxed rules to great impact. I was worried he was going to try to have one of the go go go matches like he has tried and mostly failed at in his last few WWE runs. I do agree with the earlier comment that Okada needs to switch to the Tombstone as his finisher though. Not only is the Rainmaker just a clothesline, and not even a good JBL or Hansen clothesline, but it has been super devalued in the last year and half. How many did Omega take to put him down? Six?

  4. Killjoy says:

    I ended up giving the Naito/Okada match a 10/10. The reaction from the crowd was amazing. I felt that even if it wasn’t to the elvel of Omega and Okada last year, it still felt like two megastars going at it.

    The rules of the Jericho/Omega match were kinda confusing, but then I heard that a graphic in all Japanese when the bell rung had the rules laid out. Ring outs still counted and ropebreaks save you from pinfalls and submissions, but you weren’t obligated to break the hold.

  5. Aeon Mathix says:

    My eyes bugged out at the Jericho vs Omega rating. That was great.

  6. Bloodbuzz Bunk says:

    That’s a nice troll job/joke.

    However the context for the Okada/Naito match was under served as it’s one of the best multi year arcs in wrestling. In 2014 Naito won the G1 as well and was set to face Okada for the title at the Dome. However he wasn’t over enough for the spot which lead to a fan that resulted in Tanahashi v Nakamura for the IC title to main eventing. Kayfabe wise this crushed Naito and lead to his excursion to Mexico and joining Los Ingobernables( with Andrade Almas of all people). This shift in gimmick has freed Naito to become a Japanese CM Punk who blasts the fans and the company and the other wrestlers he thinks get preferential treatment like Okada. Winning the 2017 G1 was his shot at redemption in a Tokyo Dome main event. It’s nuts he lost but this seems like a WK9 situation where Naito has to be humbled before he gets his big win,

  7. Dragon says:

    I have to disagree with your rating for Jericho/Omega….(and I too feel Omega is highly overrated)…..I was expecting to be disappointed with all the hype this match was getting but I was pleasantly surprised…..Jericho still surprises me how at his age he is better and far more entertaining than 95% of WWE’s current roster. Hope he gets one more WWE title run……as for the rest of your match ratings, I agree with em all. Good review KB.

  8. Stormy says:

    So this was my first Wrestle Kingdom. Thank you Jericho for making me want to spend $9.22 for NJPWWorld for a month.

    I was confused at first about the rating for the JerichOmega match, as I thought the match was way better than a C+ but then I saw the A- and the 5 minutes too long part (both of which I was in agreement with).

    Can somoene PLEASE tell me why Okada is thought of as being so damn good. He’s got a total shit finishing move, and Stupid Kevin Kelly hyped up him learning a Cobra (he never mentioned the word Clutch but he meant to), and that was even crappier. Based on the past 2 Wrestle Kingdoms, bell to bell Okada is a poor mans version of Cena (even to the extent that he holds the belt for too long), yet everyone raves about the guy.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      Okada, really lame finisher aside (swap the Rainmaker and the tombstone and he’d be fine) is basically Randy Orton with motivation: tall, lean, in great shape, knows how to carry himself and has a great dropkick. He’s smooth in the ring and incredibly talented with some outstanding matches. I actually get the hype with him.

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