Dynamite – March 4, 2020: If This Is Their Downgrade, They’ll Be Fine

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  1. MikeA says:

    Man. This board is strange. It’s wrestling And Ambrose is not babyface if anything he’s more of a lone wolf.
    If you don’t like something don’t watch simple as that.
    What does everyone want Aew to be. ECW
    They are just coming off revolution Not the greatest. Their woman’s division needs work(but to be fair so does everyone else’s

    To compare Aew to Wcw is a little unfair. Jericho is not hogan but then hogan is not Jericho. Hager looks energized and Santana and Ortiz have actually opened their mouths and shown some personality.
    The thought that most everyone wants everybody to either A not be a group or B get over instantly is insane.
    I know there is social media, yes but except for the diehards like on this board a lot of people want to either compare this company to something that already died or want to say well I did not like it. That’s totally fine But at least give some constructive crictism like I do.

    And for everyone on this board and with humble and complete respect to you KB.
    Cody the Bucks omega page or tony khan are not going out of their way to read your comments. Not that they don’t matter, but they are trying to write a tv and showcase new talent.
    Look I don’t have a dog in the fight(please no Roman jokes). For years we have just had new japan roh or impact. There are several others (I’m talking about the ones with tv deals). Expect for those we have had to take whatever wwe wanted to give us. Some great…some not so great. Heck they are giving us elimination chamber this weekend but in their minds it’s not special. It’s just a throwaway ppv
    I can remember the first chamber. Hhh with the throat injury after rvd splash HBK winning. Why even have matches in the chamber if that can’t be used properly
    Look. Wrestling is wrestling From the time I watched it has evolved Is everything great no, but at least now in 2020 we have a lot more options rather than just one company with a lot of the market share

  2. Jay H says:

    As soon as i saw Moxley get jumped during his Entrance I was done with this Show. The Inner Circle beatdowns week after week are becoming nWo on Monday Nitro like and it’s already tiring. Not to mention almost everyone else having to be in a Group and the Heels beating down all the Babyfaces.

    • Mike M. says:

      Totally different from when The Authority’s group was beating people down every week, right?

      • Jay H says:

        Yeah except that wasn’t every week. At least then the Faces got some over on them.

        • Mike M. says:

          Um, Ambrose has gotten over on the Inner Circle several times. I guess you had already turned it off those weeks too.

          • Jay H says:

            When? That one time with a Baseball Bat doing his best Sting impersonation? All ive seen is him getting beaten up time and again including this week. Excuse me for wanting to see the Babyfaces getting something back here and there.

          • Harry F says:

            Moxley smashed a bottle over Jericho’s head, beat Sammy Guevara, stabbed Ortiz in the eye and then beat Jericho cleanly for the World Title. Literally less than a week ago. At this point you’re just trolling.

          • Jay H says:

            Then gets beaten up again by the Heel Group for the millionth time a few days later. Great way to get your World Champion over. But yeah I’m trolling.

          • Mike M. says:

            Like The Authority did with Daniel Bryan?

          • MikeA says:

            So my question to you Jay H is what do you want wrestling to be. New day cereal where the faces drink milk and the heels run away from the excitement of a Superman punch toy at the bottom.

            All kidding aside there has to be tension in the story If there is no tension in any story why should we watch why should we care. When you watch a movie do you expect the heroes to overtake the bad guys in 5 minutes and then break out and dance for 2 hours. The only movie that I saw where the heroes did that was avengers endgame but guess why. Because the bad guy Thanos kicked their butt in infinity war And the heroes wanted to make things right
            And I already know what you might say well kids watched that movie well guess what it made 3 billion dollars almost That’s more than just their parents too.
            I also remember when Yoko had the belt but guess what he was terrible that Yoko he squashed Hulk he squashed Duggan. Luger had to beat him with a steel plate He even had Mr Fuji as a manager. Why that should not be allowed. If crowd pleasers( I cant stand the term baby faces) had no adversity to deal with. Why even fight anyone.
            I know you don’t care about what I have to say or anyone else but at least use logic when you say something

          • Jay H says:

            I don’t want it to be anything but enjoyable which I usually do enjoy it believe it or not. I don’t nitpick at much like some people do nowadays. I still enjoy WWE, AEW is fine enough minus a couple of things, I keep up with ROH, and if i hear about something elsewhere like a New Japan I’ll check it out. I’ve been a fan as long as you have from the sound of it.

          • MikeA says:

            The thing that everyone has to remember about Aew is they have only had a television show since October. I’m not a mark for any company , but if they could you know they would want an okada or ospreay but they have what they have.
            I remember going to raw back in 2016 and Neville was in a tag match with sin Cara PAC seems reenergized
            Does everybody need to be a stable as I previously stated no but a lot of the Personnel that Aew has outside of the ex wwe guys and gals don’t know how tv production is Minus their internet shows and pay per views they only get 2 hours a week. I know I have stated that before but people think that raw should go back to 2 hours as well. 2 hours when you are working goes by a lot quicker than people think You are not just responsible for the wrestlers but also everything else and those commercial breaks for us are excruciatingly long but when you are trying to do a show those long commercial breaks can feel like 30 seconds
            I have said before that stables help people get over but I can agree that sometimes you have to cut bait and move on. The nightmare collective ran its course. The Dark Order while they have shot some cool videos and may have the exalted one but who will they fight. Inner circle and death triangle are fine
            Outside of Japan this is Chris Jerichos first stable. He’s pushing 50. He does not have to do this. I know 6 million can sway the mind, but he has been wrestling for close to 30 years yet still loves this business. He even made a new finisher. He is constantly changing
            Jay H and anyone else I will agree with you on inner circle if it gets nwo level, but I want to ask a question
            Did the NWO as successful in the short term that it made WCW. Outside of Hogan being a heel which we had never seen before. Did it introduce us to any new stars. No. They were all made by wwe for the most part then it got silly because the nwo split in white Wolfpac and latino. We never knew who was joining or leaving what and the nwo and it’s groups felt like the walking dead characters
            Inner circle is at 5. If everybody starts to join then I can see your point
            What I thought was interesting and a nice little wink to the audience was mox did not just take a power Bomb through the table but a shield power Bomb through the table. The group basically saying to mox through that action that what goes around comes around because that’s how the shield got over when they first started

  3. Harry F says:

    The different factions definitely seems inspired by NJPW booking, or even old school territory booking. There are endless combinations of tag teams and six mans you can run, and it makes proper lone wolves like Darby Allin and Jon Moxley stand out.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      They could do almost all of that without having bad names and official groupings.

      • MikeA says:

        Imagine if AEWgot all of wwe’s movie star talent(not their own studio, but just overall. TONY. Holy smoke it’s Dwayne it’s John it’s Terry it’s Dave. Terry: we are Nxt in line for your money and avenge all this young talent that this company has to offer. You can call us the Hollywood Squares.
        Of course this will never happen but I’m sure you noticed that most of all elites groups group names are based in geometry someone in the back must be helping their kids with their high school homework What’s next the radical rhombus
        All kidding aside I’m glad that AEW got Jake Roberts to be a mouthpiece he looks to be in good shape and Is STILL an all time masterclass in the art of promoting an angle forward

        • MikeA says:

          KB with you being the encyclopedia that you are that’s how most people get over. Heck the success of Adam page (with the tag match over the weekend) would not be what it was if he was was not fighting to prove himself against the group that he thought was rooting for him).
          Either you get famous in the group or you fight against the group.
          Not everyone can come into a company with the success of a movie like Rocky 3 and be over. This 80s ideology of hate the heel because he’s from another country is dying(as it should) Muhammad Hassan character had heat just poor timing
          Would I want to see Paul continue to be a more elite Ted dibiase a blue blood or would I remember him more for dx. Same thing with rock.
          Ok Austin was never in a faction but his early success was attributed to the Hart foundation and the Corporation
          Heck Ric flair would still be great but Ric flair without the horsemen
          I can see your point about their being TOO MANY groups. Like for instance why is MJF even anywhere near the Blade and the Butcher That’s beneath MJF but maybe with him the audience will say ok maybe this team is legit if they are with MJF
          Edge and Christian would not be where they where without the brood and the rub from taker
          As I previously stated are some of the names ridiculous Absolutely I trust that Cody knows what he’s doing remember he started to get over when he turned on Bob Holly and was with Ted Jr Then Legacy and bam we have a young star folks

          As frustrating as AEW is with some of their decisions at least they are reminding me why I love professional wrestling. I like wrestling but with wwe they make the stars famous in a group then when they are singles stars shove them down our throats But at least back in 97 yes not a perfect year they had talent and knew how to push them forward
          But then again everyone either had to watch the show back then or miss out now people can watch whenever. That’s the frustration of being a lifelong fan. Along the way there will be bumps in the road

          • Thomas Hall says:

            I’m fine with factions in general. AEW just seems to think that everyone needs to be in one and they don’t. They especially don’t need some big official launch/name all the time.

          • MikeA says:

            You are right and not everyone is in one Darby allin is not in one BUT he is fighting against inner circle now so he’s getting over

            You have been doing this a long time and I could tell you are a wrestling fan. What separates you from every other podcaster or reviewer YOUR NAME
            Picture if hogan Nash and hall at bash 96 said we are going to take over wcw but never said new world order. Yeah shirts would be printed but it would just be their faces
            Or picture going into a movie without a title. At the end of the movie you would say great movie. What’s the name.
            There are very few people in the business that got over just by themselves. Only two people that I know of pulled it off Bruno and Andre the Giant and I will add a third for this century. MJF.

          • Thomas Hall says:

            The stables/factions thing makes sense, but we’re up to what, eight of them or so at the moment?

            Also, Pac and the Lucha Bros were getting over well enough on their own. I don’t really see the need for some official alliance.

          • MikeA says:

            If you really think like that and count then yes that’s a lot
            Wwe has 3 hours on Monday, 2 hours Wed 2 on Friday and a plethora more on the bloated network. At times sometimes it’s too much. With all that time do they use it properly all the time NO.
            With Aew they get 2 hours and being the elite for a half hour and their quarterly pay per view. And an hour of Dark
            In order to maximize their growing talent base they have to squeeze and match up talent together which at times we scratch our heads and say why. I don’t care if Mark Calloway ran the dark order that’s not for me
            Yes are the Lucha Bro’s over. They are 50 percent. Their in ring work is excellent but (and it’s not their fault they are limited promo wise
            If Asuka could speak perfect English she would be facing shayna at mania instead of becky
            This way PAC can establish himself being a leader and gain even more confidence speaking. And the Bro’s can smile and say creative things too. Look as previously mentioned the more reps and opportunities you have to be out there with a microphone the better you will be
            Who knew that Santana and Ortiz had great personalities. As good as their matches with the Lucha Bro’s have been. At the end of the day it’s just a match.
            That’s why Kenta is happy being back in Japan because he just was not Hideo Itami not his fault but you can’t force someone to do something that a they are not comfortable doing or b they can’t stick to the guidelines of the audience they are in front of.
            Brock was one of the top workers in UFC’ but he could also hype up the fight well. He knows the format of talking in wrestling is stagey so he lets someone else do the talking

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