Payback 2020: At Least Someone Is Happy

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  1. Jimmy Pledger says:

    These matches easily could’ve been on Raw or SmackDown & even the main event could’ve been a big SmackDown main event or saved for The Clash.

  2. Ryan C says:

    Why did Stephanie McMahon make triple h smell her foot???

  3. Jay H says:

    While i agree this probably didn’t need to happen a week after Summerslam it was still an enjoyable Show which flew by like an In Your House. I am already loving Heel Roman Reigns coming in the back door and winning the Universal Title. The paining with him and Paul Heyman kinda reminds me of Heel Austin with Vince in 2001.

  4. Sebastian Howard says:

    Wtf is this booking? This was not a bad show at all from a match perspective but the booking left me scratching my head.

    First off Matt riddles gts looked like shit, idk if baron didn’t want to take the move or if it’s considered unsafe now or what but he didn’t connect at all with it. And then after riddle beat corbin clean he still can’t get out of a feud with him. In 2020 feuds never, ever end! Poor riddle.

    It was nice to see shayna actually get a push and win a title even if it is with nia. Her tappping our banks/bayley at the same time should make her look legit for marks.

    Orton/Keith lee…. Keith lee did not need to win this, he would’ve looked fine if he had a good back and forth match with Orton and lost to the kayfabe “greatest wrestler ever.” Orton by losing looks like a scrub, now he’s lost at summerslam to a backslide and to the new guy in one finisher. Why should he be number one contender? This was just to appease the internet fan boys who would’ve bitched that lee was “buried” if he had lost to Orton. I’m assuming they’re going to insert Keith lee into the title picture making it a triple threat but lee has practically no reason to be there other than he wants the title while Orton/drew are in a blood feud.

    Rollins and Murphy/mysterious was pretty good but the feuds still not blown off as rey vs Seth is advertised for raw tomorrow.

    So wtf is Roman? It looks like they’re trying hard to make him a heel with him coming out late, using a low blow and a chair etc but he’s feuding with two guys who are heels (you could maybe argue that wyatts a tweener). It’s so confusing, is Roman a face with an attitude, a tweener or a straight up heel? I genuinely don’t know and if he is a heel then you’re too three guys feuding for the title are all heel.

    • Sebastian Howard says:

      Your*

      • Hamler says:

        Wyatt is a babyface

        • Sebastian Howard says:

          Why is Wyatt a baby face? He was heel a month ago when they did extreme rules, now you’re saying he’s a face because he turned Braun heel by throwing him in a swamp and saved alexa bliss (after kidnapping her and choking her out)? If anything that’s tweener.

    • Jay H says:

      So why did Keith Lee not need to win? Isn’t the whole idea of bringing in someone new to put them over and establish them. I really don’t understand your logic.

      And your seriously asking if Roman is a Heel now. Being aligned with Paul Heyman, picking his spot to come in, a Low Blow. Name a time when he has ever done any of that.

      • Sebastian Howard says:

        My point is, on Roman, this would be way easier to tell if he was feuding with someone who was actually a face. If he ran in and did this shit to drew it’s obvious that he’s a heel, here he’s beating up two other guys who are heels. He doesn’t even come across as a dick, just smart. He’s doing heel stuff but when you’re doing heel stuff to a heel:… does that make you a face or a tweener or a heel? And if he is a heel then all three guys in smackdowns main event scene are heels. That’s terrible booking.

      • Sebastian Howard says:

        On Keith lee, lee didn’t need to win because him winning makes Orton look like a bitch, now Orton has lost twice, at summerslam he lost to a backslide and now he lost the new guy with one finisher. And I absolutely would not care if lee had beaten Orton last night if Orton wasn’t in a blood feud with drew. On raw he punted drew three times, caused internal bleeding and sent drew to the hospital. Now Keith lee beat him so why, other than Orton attacking drew, should Orton get a title shot? He’s lost twice in two weeks in two ppvs, he needed the win here if he was going to continue feuding with drew. Lee would’ve looked fine if he had lost to the wwe kayfabe “greatest wrestler ever” and I 100% know you jay, that if Orton had beaten Keith lee you’d be defending it rn as the right thing to do because in your eyes wwe never, ever ever ever ever does anything wrong.

        • Jay H says:

          Actually I would have said had Orton won it would have been a mistake. You aren’t as smart as you try to make yourself out to be.

    • ted says:

      Make her look legit for marks? You can just say you like things. Yes roman is a heel. You should try someone new. Orton will be fine.

      • Sebastian Howard says:

        I did like it, what I meant by look legit to marks was that shayna, ever since coming to the main roster has been buried. She lost at mania and has continued to get buried until last night. A lot of people don’t watch nxt so if someone hasn’t seen nxt and only main roster shayna (I called them marks here but I guess you could call them people who only watch main roster whatever) they’re going to think she sucks. Now she actually looks legit for people who haven’t seen nxt.

        I wouldn’t mind Keith lee winning if they had blown off the Orton/drew feud at Summerslam but they didn’t, they’re embroiled in a blood feud and Lee’s going to get into the title picture with very little reason to be there while Orton/drew want to kill each other. I really don’t think people from nxt need to be pushed down your throat as soon as they leave nxt either but if he hadn’t won all the marks on twitter, who were already complaining on raw that he was “ buried” which is bs he looked fine on raw, would’ve bitched themselves silly saying that lee was buried even if he had lost in a good back and forth match.

  5. Hamler says:

    Looking forward to Paul’s promo on smackdown. Really average ppv. Keith Lee winning was a total shocker but I have a feeling he’s only being used to advance the McIntyre/Orton title rivalry. I see a few punt kicks in his future.

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