Monday Night Raw – March 25, 2013: Remember This Guy? He’s World Champion.

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  1. Chrisman says:

    It annoyed me how they jobbed Ziggler. They put the briefcase on him then bury him? Eh? It didn’t need to happen and it’s stupid.

    Raw is kind of annoying me, it’s too long and too boring. The angles and feud are all total shit. Yeah ok the Shield and Rock/Cena is mildly interesting but it could be so much better and the mid-card is just dead. There is talent there but the booking is on total autopilot. It’s like a computer is doing it and it’s stuck in a glitch where it can’t stop booking the same matches and keeps randomly de-pushing people.

  2. Remy says:

    Great segment at the end.

  3. chris says:

    There is nothing to get, Cena’s job is to entertain me and the other fans of the “wwe universe! I always wanted to throw that in somewhere” He’s not doing that period.

    The buy rates and numbers and merchandise sales don’t mean anything to me. Is he fun on the mic? I would say no the shit eating grin and the mugging for the camera has him trying way to hard. Don’t get me wrong he can have passable promos when he actually cares to, but on a consistent basis I would say no.

    Is he fun to watch in the ring. No “but he goes out there night after night and busts his ass for you” So do all of the other wrestlers in the world and some do a better job than he does.

    I just dislike this idea that Cena is untouchable because he’s such a nice guy who tries so hard. He may be the nicest guy in the world dispensing ice cream to all. That has nothing to do with his bland character and sub par wrestling skills.

    I don’t even dislike Cena I dislike what he represents.

    Average, boilerplate, safety. A character they don’t have to take chances with, and even when things do get bad no one cares.

    Is this really what you want as a fan? A bland superhero, rapper, marine?

    It’s not even Cena’s fault Would you say no to millions of dollars and spotlight?
    It’s the lack of effort that irks me super cena wins roll credits see you next month.

    I know they can do better, but they don’t need to so there not going to. Why make billions when we can make millions.

  4. chris says:

    I think the big problem is Cena just doesn’t seem to be entertaining anymore. It’s World Wrestling Entertainment so entertain me. He can’t anymore hence the crowd reaction. Which still blows me mind that a face can be booed that harshly, And since the fed doesn’t have to try anymore since they have no real competition. They can just throw the status quo at you till things get critical and they have to make a change.

  5. Rocko says:

    It kind of feels like Wrestlemania snuck up on the WWE.

  6. Mike says:

    It ran out of fuel because a cool storyline was booked teribly and ended up being nash vs HHH.

    And M.R it was confirmed Punk overtook Cena in sales in 2011.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      Yes indeed it was confirmed that Punk was pulling ahead of Cena.

      Imagine that: fans weren’t buying as much merchandise of a guy that they had been buying merchandise from for years. Not to mention it just happened to coincide with Punk having a bunch of new items released.

      Punk overtaking Cena meant very little and if it surprised you, I’d love to know why. The interesting question: did it last?

    • M.R. says:

      I love the internet’s reasoning for Punk fizzling out: BLAME KEVIN NASH!

      • Thomas Hall says:

        Here’s the big problem with Punk supporters:

        MITB 2011, as in the apex of his time in the company and the biggest match of his life, got 195,000 buys.

        No Way Out 2012: 194,000 buys. The main event of that show: Big Show vs. Cena #854759.

        Another way of looking at it: Rock’s return at Mania 27 brought PPV buys up 30% from Mania 26. Lesnar brought Extreme Rules up 25%. Punk brought MITB 2011 up 18%. To put this in comparison: John Laurinitis’ first match brought Over the Limit up 19%.

        Therefore, the WWE hierarchy of people in their first big match as PPV draws goes like this:

        Rock
        Lesnar
        John Laurinitis
        CM Punk

      • Jordan says:

        @M.R. The way that angle was booked post-MITB was very poor, plain and simple. Punk should have been gone for months. Rock/Cena was already booked for Mania, but we could at least have had Punk/Cena II at Survivor Series or the Rumble. But no, Punk comes back after 1-2 weeks, Nash and HHH get involved and the angle is dead. While I don’t think Punk is the top guy/draw in WWE by any means, his “fizzling out” in 2011 was all due to the way he was booked.

  7. james gracie says:

    So the crowd was dead for a lot of RAW tonight? When do we stop blaming the crowds and start to blame the product?

    I don’t wanna sound like a negative nancy but the only reason I’m ordering Wrestlemania is because it’s Wrestlemania and the WWE knows that so it seems they don’t have to put in much effort.

    And how many times are we gonna predict a heel turn for Cena? If he turns who is the WWE’s top face gonna be? Sheamus or Orton who are in a throwaway tag match. Del Rio who gets zero reaction. The Rock cause he’s totally staying after Mania full time.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      “And how many times are we gonna predict a heel turn for Cena? If he turns who is the WWE’s top face gonna be? Sheamus or Orton who are in a throwaway tag match. Del Rio who gets zero reaction. The Rock cause he’s totally staying after Mania full time.”

      This right here is the big thing people don’t get about turning Cena. The other faces are nowhere near his level and there’s no one that can carry the company like he can.

      • Mike says:

        July 2011 CM Punk could have carried the company. He was doing good ratings and his merchandise EXPLODED past Cena.

      • chris says:

        No one wrestler carries the company every main eventer is replaceable. It’s been proven time after time. Nobody thought the company could live without Hogan, Hart, Austin, or Rock. Now with Cena it’s being said again. If Cena disappeared into the cenation never to return, the company would be just fine with a new main eventer. Would it take some adjustment? Sure. To suggest that no one else can do is laughable.

        • Thomas Hall says:

          No to suggest that the company was fine without Hogan, Austin and/or Rock is laughable actually, but arguing with you is like banging my head agaist a wall.

        • M.R. says:

          You just put Bret Hart on the same level as Hogan, Austin and Rock. LOL.

        • chris says:

          You shouldn’t be arguing it’s merely debate. You don’t actually get mad at this stuff do you?

          As for the company being fine without Hogan, Rock, Austin, Hart or anyone else is entirely correct. Competition forced them to make new stars. Now there is no competition, so they can rest on their laurels. I don’t understand how anyone could think that one person drives wrestling it’s a combination of so many people to make it work. If Cena or anyone else was shot in the head tomorrow would the company go out of business the next day? Of course not.

          As for Hart being not being on the same level as Hogan, Rock, or Austin, Maybe not in north America but in Europe I would argue he was.

        • M.R. says:

          I would LOVE to see the statistics or facts of any kind to show that Bret Hart was as popular as Hogan and Austin in Europe. Please, do tell.

  8. Blue Jay-zer(Not Jay wearing a mask to hide his identity) says:

    Fantastic show tonight. This RAW could have been Wrestlemania, it was that good! I’m not really sure why all you guys say John Cena is turning into the back of a shoe at Wrestlemania but whatever.

    Keep up the good work WWE! Now if only there was a way to keep Thursday from coming…

  9. Thomas Hall says:

    That’s wrestling 101. Every wrestler, commentator and promoter ever has said “this is the biggest match EVER!” every single time a new match is announced. It wouldn’t be that smart to say “Well this match is big. It’s not as big as this other show but it’s still pretty big.”

  10. Jay H says:

    Im sensing a Cena Heel turn at Wrestlemania. Just by the way he reacted to Rock grilling him,calling the People’s Elbow stupid,and the look on his face following the Rock Bottom. Also saying he would do anything to win the WWE Title and shove it in Rock’s face.

  11. M.R. says:

    Oh hey, 3 hours is still way too long for a weekly television show. Awesome.

  12. Mystery Man says:

    It was an ok Raw. C- sounds right.

    What bothered me was that a 3 minute and 5 minute broadcast needed a 15 minute overrun. All so we can see Cena get Rock Bottomed.

  13. chris says:

    It was an ok show. It just seemed the audience did not care about anything. Even when Rock and Cena came out at the end the audience reaction seemed rather lacking at first.

    It also seemed the first time Cena actually showed the heel potential in him. Talking about how he had to win, And how Rock did not beat him last year buying into his own delusion.

    It just seems so forced this year for some reason.

    • Mystery Man says:

      I fully agree about the crowd. They were absolutely pathetic imo, but I guess it isn’t all their fault.

      • chris says:

        It just seems they Haven’t been able to capture the audience imagination with the top matches. In the way they thought they were going to.

        It’s partly some of the matches fault Cena ,rock has been Done already. So has Triple H, Lesnar. The rematches don’t hold appeal to some. It doesn’t help that some people already think they know the outcome.

        The other problem is just such lackluster promotion this year. I don’t know if I’m the only one who thinks that. However this year it just seems like there not even trying. It’s like there saying “Look Brock Lesnar, The Rock, and Undertaker are going to be on our show watch it!” Not enough effort is being given to why we should care that they are fighting.

        • chris says:

          Also where does Cena get off saying he never won the big one? What were the fifty thousand world titles not big ones? The other Wrestlemania main events wins not big ones?

  14. Yerp says:

    I’m talking 2% right now instead of 0% btw

    • Thomas Hall says:

      …..maybe, but I’d think even 2% is high. I definitely see him being very aggressive during the match and definitely working as the heel, but it doesn’t last long term.

      • Yerp says:

        I’m under the impression that an attitude shift is in order, more so than an actual heel turn. His cockiness with the statement of ‘I had you beat but I got caught up’ was surprising. He actually half way blamed someone else for his loss. Maybe after mania he takes on the screw you if you aren’t with me attitude? Gets a little more brash with his statements and such.

    • Yerp says:

      Yea, you should probably chill.

  15. Yerp says:

    For the first time watching since cena has started getting the mixed reactions, I got a slight feeling that he may turn heel at wrestlemania. His main theme is he just has to beat the rock. The look on his face at the end leads me to believe he may be willin to do anything to beat him. Now, don’t read into this as another one of the retards who thinks cena HAS to turn heel. He doesn’t need to, but as
    of right now it wouldn’t surprise me. What say you?

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