Monday Night Raw – February 24, 2014: That Old Feeling

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  1. Civil Defence says:

    No one is mentioning the obvious – KB has been pushing for Bray Wyatt vs Roman Reigns and awesome it would be. You got it. And it was terrible. Roman Reigns looked completely lost when he wasn’t hitting his big moves.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      I’d hardly call it awful. Give it a build and an atmosphere and see what happens.

      • Civil Defence says:

        Reigns doesn’t look ready for a singles push. His in ring work still has a long way to go. I’m sure he’ll get there, but they are going to have to give him time

  2. Rocko says:

    I hope they keep it Orton vs Batista. The crowd reaction to that could possibly rival the Lesnar vs Goldberg match. It will be hilarious.

    • ted says:

      Question is do they think the audience won’t shit all over it? or do they just not care? It’s far more entertaining if the company thinks it knows better.

  3. Jerichoholic94 says:

    I’m kind of upset (as are many) that Daniel Bryan still isn’t inserted in a triple threat match after Batista’s reaction at the last 2 PPVs. At first I was excited to hear he was coming back although I never was his biggest fan but since he’s come back I’m completely dissatisfied with his promos and also in ring work. Wondering how this will progress over the next few weeks..

    Undertaker’s return was basically spoiled to be tonight atleast a month ago if not more. As soon as I heard the gong I marked out. Taker is still by far still my favourite of all time and can still bring his A-Game at Wrestlemania. I’m interested to see him and Lesnar get it on this year on the grandest stage.

    Also, Cena vs Wyatt is all but locked in and that should be a great match as well.

    I must say however I did anticipate RVD and Jericho back for WM. It’s not too late. Just figured they’d be back by the rumble.

  4. Killjoy says:

    Usos vs NAO isn’t on the review.

  5. ted says:

    Well here’s hoping a change is made in the next six weeks.

  6. ted says:

    P.s. Heyo i’m sorry if I came off harsh. I respect your opinion. it’s just so frustrating to see this happening.

  7. ted says:

    1. In hollywood terms Batista is nobody Zoe Saldana was in avatar and is about to be in 3 more of them on top of gog.

    2. Groot yes the talking tree. The joke isn’t that he doesn’t have a lot of lines it’s that the only thing groot can say ls I am groot. He will be featured plenty in the film as he and Rocket Racoon are the most marketable characters to kids.

    3. Just because something is happening doesn’t mean you have to accept or like it.

    I’ve never heard that triple h hates Bryan why would he?

    Triple H’s ego cannot be so big that he believes he’s doing Bryan a favour by letting Bryan beat him at wresltemania. Also this is somehow on the same level of winning the gold in the main event.

    • Heyo says:

      I’ve heard it from a lot of smark sites, and given the stuff HHH has done over the years, this actually sounds like something he would do. Didn’t he bury Orton at one point? And how he beat Booker T at WM19 despite the booking going in Booker’s favor.

      Actually….the part about Orton is ironic in hindsight. Then again, Austin and McMahon teaming up was unimaginable until WM17.

      Admittedly, I’ve been more accepting of rumor sites as of late. Especially when you have things like people posting pictures of the next iPhone in advance and leaks like that in the tech industry.

      • Civil Defence says:

        HHH had issue with online sites calling Bryan Danielson the best wrestler in the world back in the day. I remember a few interviews with him before Danielson signed with WWE, and all HHH could say was he was a nobody and that HHH was a star while Danielson wrestled to 50 people a night making no money

  8. ted says:

    Imagine this advertisement online or on TV.

    It’s for Guardians of the Galaxy, and they cut to Batista’s character in the movie. They juxtapose his character being a badass with Batista in the WWE, beating Orton in the ring and with the titles in his hands. They make it like you can see this character in the next big Marvel movie in the WWE.

    Also, they market it to kids, because kids like Marvel.

    1. I just don’t see drax being the break out character of that movie. especially with vin disel and zoe saldana in it.

    2. the very minor burst of publicity they may get is not worth the amazing backlash they are receiving. Give him the title in may or june. The movie doesn’t come out untill august tie it in with summerslam if you must. Make your fans happy at the biggest show of the year. It should be a no brainier.

    • Heyo says:

      1. There’s already a running joke about how little Vin Diesel’s part will be. Apparently all he’s supposed to do is say his character’s name a few times and that’s it. And I don’t think Zoe Saldana ever became a huge name. But at the same time, you have a monster character in Drax, and it looks like Batista with some body paint over himself. It won’t take long with a few WWE commercials to point out that they’re the same person.

      2. That’s actually what I’m worried about: That HHH does not seem to give a shit anymore. I’m actually on the side of Bryan getting a title shot, but given that HHH supposedly legit hates him and that they’ve had many, many times to give him the title but still seem to keep him out of the title shot, I don’t think it’s going to happen for a while.

      I was afraid a long time ago that Bryan was going to get buried for personal and business reasons, and sadly that seems to be happening. Granted, I would totally love to see him win, because he deserves it and that would be interesting to see how WWE does with him actually as their champion.

      But sadly, I remember an article after the Rumble accusing Vince of either not caring about the fans anymore or being out of touch. That seems to be happening.

  9. Stormy says:

    I noticed something awesome tonight.

    They have only 1 recap of an earlier segment, and it was John Cena’s injury (a massive story). Probably because we have both the pre-show and Backstage Pass.

    In its stead we had longer matches and more story-advancing segments.

    Oh, and if we give the WWE Universe what they want all the time, then every face will win and every heel will lose and WWE will go out of business. I don’t mind HHH/Bryan, and I’m certain a WWE WHC match will come from that, as early as at WrestleMania XXX after Orton/Batista.

  10. F5 says:

    No wonder WWE started up the Network before Mania. Because nobody would be crazy enough to buy the PPV with what is lined up. This has to be the most lackluster card since Hogan/Sid or Taker/Sid… hmm… Batista reminds me an awful lot of Sid…

    And let’s not forget Lesnar, the guy who made Taker his bitch 10+ years ago before Lesnar was trained as a UFC fighter and winning their championship fighting against someone on(literally) their last legs and presenting it as a sort of threat. Lesnar should’ve faced Bryan for the title at Wrestlemania and HHH should’ve faced the television screen from his couch.

    This only looks bad on WWE asskissers too, because if you actually buy that this was the real plan then you have to admit that HHH purposely diminished the momentum of this match by him and his wife acting like faces for absolutely no reason, which ultimately confused fans and caused what would ultimately result in a lesser payoff for Bryan. If you don’t buy this and instead believe that this was originally planned for Punk, then you must admit that WWE had an even LESSER match planned for Bryan, and the single most over man on the roster was only not going to be in the title match, but they would rather give his payoff match against HHH to CM Punk, someone who was half-assing it during his current run and didn’t even want to be there!

    So, let’s assume that HHH, who has either purposely diminished this feud for the sake of placating his own ego, or that HHH, the man who believed Bryan wasn’t even capable of being in a top 3 match on the card and would rather give his push to Big Show and Punk, has Bryan go over him. Then what? How do we know the fans will still give a shit by the time this happens? Bryan isn’t in the main event. Orton and a guy who was never the top dog and failed when Vince and HHH tried to make him be, are. He’s not in the second biggest match. Lesnar and Undertaker are, two more part-timers. What does this do for Bryan, really?

    It’s arguable that Bryan is even IN the 3rd biggest match. Cena is still wrestling on this card. Cena is the top star in the company. You really think that his match is going to be made a low tier match? Hogan vs Sid was the main event when they fought. HHH Vs Sheamus sure wasn’t a top match on the card. So we’re left with Bryan as an afterthought, and HHH, a man who has never had a good Mania match except for when he was carried by Undertaker, to accomplish everything that his supposed heel persona actually said, making him into less than a top star.

    The most over guy on the roster is an afterthought. You think this will make people want to buy the PPV? But WWE “always has a plan” what we want will always happen… we just don’t know what WWE is gonna do!…. But we do, everything they’ve been saying they will do for months now is what ended up happening. Nothing has changed.

    No wonder Punk left. Can you blame him?(I’m sure you’ll find some excuse to, like the idiots on your forum who still want to pretend Bryan should be handed that belt immediately and let run with it)

    • M.R. says:

      Triple H’s only good Mania matches were against Taker? Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit, and Sheamus would all disagree. Hell, even his matches with Jericho and Cena weren’t bad.

    • Jay H. (the real one) says:

      KB why are you letting this F5 fool run his mouth? All he does is go on long rants about nothing almost.

      Well if DB has to go through HHH to get back to the Title then I guess so be it. Who knows they could add the stip if he beats HHH then gets into the Title Match later.

      RAW was fine overall. Taker/Brock was awesome,Reigns/Bray was good (didn’t care for the Savage chants this time,the Match wasn’t that bad),Sheamus/Christian,and DB/Kane were all good.

      Batista was awful tonight. Hogan looked so good back in a WWE Ring and I couldn’t help but enjoy it too.

  11. M.R. says:

    You seem to be missing the point.

  12. SamualDude says:

    A very good show and we have two very exciting matches in Cena vs Bray and Taker vs Lesnar but my goodness that title match at the moment is just awful. The fans just don’t want to see it at all.

    • ted says:

      It seems like a pissing contest. The fans want Bryan. The office wants Dave. I”m just wondering if they really are willing to have massive booing. In the main event of the biggest show of the year.

      • SamualDude says:

        The only way Wrestlemania should end is with Daniel Bryan holding the titles, one in each arm and leading the WWE Universe in a Yes Chant.

      • Heyo says:

        If the rumors of Vince doing a deal with Marvel to give Batista the title for Guardians of the Galaxy, I don’t think they really care anymore.

        They’ll probably be like “oh sure, wrestling fans don’t like it. But kids will see that guy from the new Marvel movie holding the title and will tune in because of it, so it’s all good”

        The fact that I can actually see something like this being said in the office is sad.

        • ted says:

          That rumor doesn’t even make sense. Why would marvel care if one of the characters is champion or not? It’s not like batista being champion changes his movie contract. Or his characters importance in the film.

        • M.R. says:

          Not sure if the rumor’s even true, but how do you not see the publicity impact of Batista being champ?

        • Heyo says:

          Imagine this advertisement online or on TV.

          It’s for Guardians of the Galaxy, and they cut to Batista’s character in the movie. They juxtapose his character being a badass with Batista in the WWE, beating Orton in the ring and with the titles in his hands. They make it like you can see this character in the next big Marvel movie in the WWE.

          Also, they market it to kids, because kids like Marvel.

          And that’s why I think Dave is walking out of WM30 with the title. Because I honestly think at this point, Vince cares more about advertising and kids than keeping his loyal fans happy.

          After all, if he is still keeping WWE PG despite the fact that you cannot watch a wrestling video anymore without seeing someone long for the Attitude Era in the comments section, what makes you think he won’t do something like this?

          It does suck for me, even though I know it’s going to happen, because I want Bryan to win the title so badly but I don’t think it’s ever going to happen. At least not until Summerslam at the soonest.

          I think Bryan’s handling is one of the most botched moves WWE had made in a while, but I sadly don’t think it’s going to change.

        • ted says:

          You mean nothing because wrestling won’t matter to some marvel fans? Even if they do you really think Batista’s fame will somehow skyrocket from him being champion? People will say oh Batista is the champ we have to see his movie? that he isn’t even the main character of? It doesn’t work like that.

          Put it to you like this if Hulk Hogan was champion when he made no holds barred you think it would of fared any better?

        • Heyo says:

          More like WWE going “Hey, are you excited for Guardians of the Galaxy? Well, we got one of the actors there as our champion!” It’s more about attracting people who would never watch WWE regularly and give them a reason to want to watch it, because Guardians is already getting a buzz as it is.

          It’s the kind of mentality that you could see in Drew Carey being in the 2001 Rumble, the difference is that the guy you’re using for publicity was actually a WWE wrestler before.

        • ted says:

          Yes because The drew carey show did poorly and they never did another ppv.

          It’s not working why can they not acknowledge that it simply isn’t working?

          I understand they want to cross promote but it’s failing.

          Can you imagine inviting a friend over showing them the 2014 rumble and saying “this guy is gonna be a superhero in the gog”. “You mean the one being booed out the building and flipping off the fans”? Truly an idol for the kids.

        • Heyo says:

          Like I said, I do want them to change plans and go with Bryan as champion. But at this point, I really don’t think they will, now that Bryan/HHH looks like it’s a go.

          Actually, is anyone scared that Bryan is facing HHH? I don’t see HHH letting Bryan win, at least not clean a la Billy Kidman winning dirty against Hogan in WCW.

        • ted says:

          If Bryan’s match with h doesn’t end with him putting his knee threw H’s face. Then Triple h’s ego is out of hand. No one would be able to justify that call without trolling.

  13. frank says:

    “It’s pretty clear that we’re heading towards HHH vs. Bryan in the showdown and there’s nothing wrong with that at all.”

    Wrong Bryan should still be winning the title at wrestlemania 30. Triple H is nowhere near a consolation prize to that.

  14. M.R. says:

    Curious, when’s the last time Hogan and Taker were on the same show?

    Also, I have NO clue what the plan is for the title match now that Bryan/Triple H is set.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      I believe the 15th anniversary back in 2007.

    • Heyo says:

      I think they’re actually going to try to keep pushing Batista/Orton for the title, if Bryan/HHH is happening.

      Give the creative staff credit, they have serious balls to keep going with that match. Or just lack brains. Maybe both.

    • ted says:

      Summerslam 2005 I believe was the last time taker and hogan were on the same show.

      It looks like right now at least. They don’t care about the reaction it will get. It was booked Orton, Batista, and you’ll like it! There is time to change it, but it seems less and less likely that they will.

      • M.R. says:

        There really isn’t much else to do with it now that Bryan’s officially facing Triple H. It’ll be interesting to see what closes the show.

        • andy says:

          I just don’t understand. Triple H and Vince are both smart guys. There is no reason not to have Bryan in the title match. Every sign in the world points to bryan leading 70 thousand plus in the worlds biggest yes chant title held high.

          The fans do not want batista you have him do something else. It’s not hard.

  15. Heyo says:

    Lesnar vs. Taker for Mania? That…I’m not sure if it’s going to be any good, but it has promise.

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