Monday Night Raw – February 29, 2016: We Waited 23 Years For This

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  1. Phenom says:

    Undertaker was awesome!

  2. Dragon says:

    I am terrified that the Brie Bella/Lana interaction is being used to set up a Mania match just so Daniel Bryan can make an appearance in her corner…….eek!

  3. IC says:

    23 years for what exactly?
    What happened in 1993 that was referenced on the show tonight?

  4. Dorian says:

    @Ted – every week you pull a “James Gracie” on this site. And I get it – you don’t like the current state of product. And generally when people are disillusioned they will pull apart everything. There are parts of course that even I am not happy about;; but there are still things that make me want to tune in – like Ambrose, Shane vs Undertaker is quite unique and intriguing at this point, AJ Styles….

    When was the last time when you enjoyed a full on feud; and really got into the product?

    • Jay H (the real one) says:

      People would rather just hate watch and not see what happens.

      • ted says:

        Or you know you could not like the current state of some stories and still like others? Are people not allowed to question the storylines? They look stupid. If the best answer you or anyone else has is let it play out. You give this company far to much credit. They Can do better and have done so. This isn’t one of those times. The company is telling fans their opinion doesn’t matter and your siding with them. This doesn’t seem odd to you?

        @Dorian

        Just a question before I get into it. Is your name a Scrubs reference? Great show.

        “@Ted – every week you pull a “James Gracie” on this site.”

        Not really. Well it is true that some of the current story lines are really stupid. I always try to be fair with my criticisms. I try to explain why I don’t like something. Instead of just writing it off as dumb for no reason. I Don’t hate something because it’s popular or troll culture. Which is more what I get from James gracie.

        “And I get it – you don’t like the current state of product.”

        Your being to broad. Yes I don’t like the Triple H and Reigns story, or the Shane, undertaker story. But I am a fan of AJ styles, the new day, Jericho, Ceasro, Kevin Owens, Stardust, Nxt and The Lesnar, Ambrose feud. I even enjoy the social outcast.

        “And generally when people are disillusined they will pull apart everything.”

        Or when you watch the show and start to ask questions. The response you get shouldn’t be. Your thinking to hard or Let it play out. Fact is the storylines on top right now are bad. They don’t need apologists. They are simply bad. Can they rebound? Of course. But watching the company fight the audience in a vain attempt to tell them what they want. Does not inspire confidence.

        There are parts of course that even I am not happy about;; but there are still things that make me want to tune in – like Ambrose, Shane vs Undertaker is quite unique and intriguing at this point, AJ Styles”…

        OK so if you enjoy the story lines then it really shouldn’t matter what I think should it? You can like them, No one is telling you that you can’t. But that doesn’t mean that everyone does.

        “When was the last time when you enjoyed a full on feud; and really got into the product?”

        The last feud I enjoyed was Owens, Cena, or Bayley, Sasha, The last Time I “enjoyed the product” Which I assume means liking a majority of their shows? Most of last year with nxt?

        You seem to be laboring under the pretense that I don’t enjoy the product at all. This is not true. Why is the internet so extreme with everything. Can it not be that I don’t enjoy one or two stories on top? Feel The wrong decisions are being made with a number of the talents? Yet still enjoy other aspects of the show? Does it have to be 100% love or hate with no middle ground?

  5. Greg says:

    I bet the Ambrose/HHH match is going to replace whatever they had setup for Roman for the live MSG show.

    Also, the heck was this show. Nothing happened. Incredibly boring.

    • Greg says:

      Also they better not do Show vs Owens at Mania. I don’t even like Owens that much but I know he deserves better. Y2AJ is such a waste of both guys.

      I might need to take a few month break after Mania. Need to wait until the injured guys come back for it to be watchable again.

      • Dorian says:

        Y2AJ vs New Day is a waste for AJ and Jericho????If not this Jericho would be putting over guys like Fandango. And while AJ vs Owens would have been great – Owens needs to build some serious winning streak after that awful program with Ziggler. A mania match between AJ and Owens is much too soon, with a lot to loose.

        So much hate on this site.

        • Greg says:

          It looks like Owens will face Big Show. BIG SHOW AT FREAKING WRESTLEMANIA. Not AJ, not Jericho, BIG SHOW.

          Jericho still has a big value, putting him in a tag match instead of a singles is a waste. Calling up a tag team to finally disthrone New Day would have been great. Instead they will get beat by a thrown together team that after about 3 tag matches together, beat the tag team champions.

          AJ I don’t mind as much. However if Owens is facing Big Show, then I mind a lot.

  6. ted says:

    Here’s a question. Stephanie McMahon is supposed to be smart with a good understanding of her family business right?

    How is it that she times and time again forgets the number one rule of being a heel? You have to show weakness. She never does. She comes down and either degrades the faces, or she gets to do her screechy heel thing with no interruption. The bad guy has to get their comeuppance and she never does.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      She’s above the rules. That’s really all there is to it.

      • ted says:

        So what your saying is she’s doing something stupid every week and no one is going to tell her it’s stupid. This somehow makes it any less stupid?

        On top of that it’s going to end up costing money and fan interest. Who is going to watch a heel never get theirs?

        This whole people are exempt from the rules is stupid and dangerous. Not saying you Talk down to your boss. But you do mention things that are/will cause problems. If they won’t listen to you, you find someone they will listen to. Change doesn’t come from apathy.

        • Thomas Hall says:

          Oh not at all. It’s still very stupid. It’s just that it’s Stephanie and she’s not going to get any serious comeuppance.

          Remember last year at Wrestlemania when Rousey bent her arm? Or when Vickie shoved her in mud or whatever it was? That’s about it for Stephanie getting anything done to her.

          I fully agree that it’s stupid but it’s one of those things that isn’t changing because she’s in charge.

  7. Heyo says:

    Does it feel like the booking has gotten lazy or halfassed to you lately? It almost feels like they’ve mentally given up after Reigns got booed on the road to WM31.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      Kind of yeah. More than that though is the injury bug. There’s almost no way you can get around this kind of stuff.

      • Dorian says:

        Exactly this – there is little writers can do when all their storylines are on a surgery table.

        • Dookie Blaster 4.0 says:

          and writers writing new stories for the dudes that are there is completely out of the question? stacked card or not, wrestlemania is still gonna get super big numbers

  8. BJ says:

    How about this scenario: Reigns cost hhh da title and Dean walks n2 wm as champion.
    Scenario a: Brock destroys Dean and walks out champion
    Scenario b: Reigns helps Dean at wm 2 retain then turns heel attacking Ambrose afterwards.
    Scenario c: fatal 4way

  9. Dragon says:

    The finish to the Becky/Sasha match was terrible, but I am looking forward to what they have planned for tag team championship at Mania……also it is about time the Freebirds are in the HOF

  10. ted says:

    So no explanation as to why Undertaker would agree to this match? IF he’s blaming Vince that just makes Vince look stupid. Taker is aware he can just say no right? he did it to Shawn a bunch of times. This show gives me a migraine. Also Reigns is so important he’s not on the show. Can’t wait to see Ambrose get a better reaction but not get the push due to better hair or not shaking Bradshaw’s or whatever stupid reason they come up with.

    • ted says:

      *Bradshaw’s hand*

    • Jay H (the real one) says:

      I think you and other people are just over thinking the Undertaker/Shane stuff. Reigns wasn’t there tonight because I think that nose surgery was legitimate last week.

      Also I guess its HHH vs Dean on March 12th at the Toronto Network special.

      • ted says:

        So you think asking for a explanation as to why something is happening is overthinking it?

        • Jay H (the real one) says:

          What do you want Undertaker to say really? It’s Taker for crying out loud its not as if he’s going to turn down many Matches regardless of who makes them or who he goes in there with.

        • ted says:

          In storyline “i’m not your lapdog, you don’t like your son do your own dirty work.”

          The problem is this match makes no sense. Have you really gotten to the point where you just accept everything they do? They don’t even have to justify their own narrative? On top of that, Shane has no hope of winning this.

          Wrestling is telling a story Maggle. Guess what? The story still has to make sense. It doesn’t help that this wrestlemania looks like it was written on a cocktail napkin 5 days before the show.

        • Jay H (the real one) says:

          How exactly does it not make sense? Shane wants control so Vince is dispatching The Undertaker on him. Simple as that. I would say something is going to go down in that Match. It won’t be a straight up HIAC.

    • IC says:

      This is pretty much spot on.
      Also, to reference what you wrote below, I think they’re still booking on the fly on a napkin as we speak, and nothing is really final until the show.
      So anyone that wants to fantasy book and guess what they’re doing now with Ambrose getting the title shot, good luck with all of that.

  11. Your Eternal Reward says:

    I gave up an hour in. Recaps and more recaps. All the champions lost because champions are losers and have been for the past several years in the WWE.

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