Monday Night Raw – January 22, 2018 (25th Anniversary): Tug of War

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  1. Aeon Mathix says:

    It doesn’t take much to figure out but it’s funny that they aren’t even trying to hide the fact that Kane is just in this to take a pin

  2. M.R. says:

    Also, why does the old school arena look so much cooler than the standard one? The ICOPRO banner was a nice touch.

  3. Dragon says:

    Enough with The Revival is buried crap. They took part in a segment with some of the greatest ever and were beat 9-2 basically. They will be fine after this and will probably win the tag titles at some point this year (as they should). Your are reading too much into a fun nostalgic show where most of the roster was not taking it serious and just having fun as the viewer should be. This is the same complaints the IWC had when The Rock beat Rowan. Ridiculous.

    • Dragon says:

      *also, I bet if you asked The Revival, they weren’t too upset to be part of that segment.*

    • Thomas Hall says:

      Rowan had no value coming in. Revival hasn’t been able to establish themselves since coming to the main roster and now they get this. I’ll drop the Revival thing if I can get an answer to this:

      What did that accomplish? Other than letting DX have another moment where they get to look good, what positive came out of that? Why didn’t they do that to Slater and Rhyno or two goofs who had nothing to lose?

      • Dragon says:

        1) It provided crowd pleasing entertainment. 2) The Revival can use it as an inciting force to start a path of destruction through the tag division or begin a feud with Balor Club. 3) Why shouldn’t DX have a moment on a throwaway 25th anniversary show?

        • MikeCheyne says:

          On Raw 1000, the legends destroyed Heath Slater and Damien Sandow, and I think that helped both of them out. The difference, of course, is that Sandow was more or less established (in his gimmick at the time)–he was new, but this wasn’t the gimmick where you were an instant #1 contender or a top power guy. It would be equivalent if Elias was the one who took all the finishers (ironically, he looked great last night!). Slater was the jobbiest of the jobbers who got a nice boost from that and became a prominent jobber from then on.

          I would compare the Revival getting clobbered here to the Ascension getting destroyed in that one old school Raw by the APA, Outlaws, and NWO. The Ascension had accomplished almost nothing on the main roster by that point, were already seen as questionable, and that completely sunk them further. Now the Revival is way more talented and should do just fine, but they also are relatively new folks who haven’t done anything on the main roster. Giving them a chance to establish themselves first might have been the more prudent thing. To be honest, you could even have had Gallows and Anderson come out, try to too sweet everyone, call them nerds, and take the parade of finishers, and I think that would have been better.

        • Thomas Hall says:

          1. Which could have happened without Revival being squashed.

          2. Fair enough if true. Based on past experiences, I have zero percent belief that WWE will do so.

          3. They should. Just no need to destroy a young, talented team in the process.

        • Dragon says:

          I understand where you are coming from KB but I just think if it was HHH/HBK destroying them 2 on 2 it would have been worse. They were outnumbered 9-2. And it was a fun moment.

  4. NightShiftLoser says:

    I hope The Revival kept all those shovels they were hit with tonight. They may need them for their post-wrestling career. What a load of crap that was.

  5. MikeCheyne says:

    This wasn’t the greatest show in the world (I think Raw 15th anniversary and Raw 1,000 were better nostalgia fests), but the whole thing was somewhat hampered by the fact they were trying to be nostalgic AND plug the Royal Rumble (I actually would have liked seeing as many former Royal Rumble winners you could get, although a number of them are persona non grata or dead, so maybe not).

    Aside from the two arena fiasco though, I don’t think this was that big of a disaster like I’ve seen elsewhere–the pacing was off (a problem on all WWE programming) was the biggest gripe.

  6. Thomas Hall says:

    Not at all Richard.

  7. Greg says:

    I was incredibly disappointed by this show. Raw 1000 was 1000 times better than this. Though, I loved the APA segments. Wish they would have yelled at someone who didn’t go through the door.

    I don’t think you should have expected Cena vs Taker. However, I don’t get at all what Taker’s promo was. JR sounded like he didn’t give a crap. They didn’t give him huge stuff to work with but he could have put a little more passion in it.

    I was surprised they didn’t do first hour in Manhattan Center then rest at Barclays. But whatever, this show should have been more fun.

  8. M.R. says:

    What a cluster. That C rating is generous.

    • M.R. says:

      Also, not sure if Austin’s swimming in the fountain of youth or what but he looks great.

      • Thomas Hall says:

        Helps when you’ve been out of the business for thirteen years and you’re only in your early 50s. He’s also always talking about staying in shape.

        • M.R. says:

          The man’s in his 50s and doesn’t look much different than when he was on top of the business. Alot of older guys stay in shape that doesn’t stop them from looking their age..

  9. Jay H (the real one) says:

    While i would have liked to seen a little more from the Manhattan Center part I enjoyed it overall. Also was The Revival really buried? I don’t think they were but that’s me.

    • Mike M. says:

      Buried? Maybe not, but they were made to look like fools. They cut a great, impassioned promo last week about being wrestlers and this week, they were jobbed out in two minutes before running the DX finisher gauntlet. That’s what a Curt Hawkins if for. They could have achieved the same effect by having Hawkins wrestle Balor instead of making the best tag team currently in the WWE (not named The Usos) look like a joke.

  10. Dragon says:

    You don’t have to build up talent on nostalgia shows like this. These nights are just to sit back and enjoy the memories they conjure and appreciate the last 25 years. Everyone will be fine. Sheesh.

  11. Prophet says:

    What was the segment supposed to be (kayfabe) for the main event? Like what did Angle have planned for Lesnar, Kane and Strowman? That’s what I want to know.

  12. Mike M. says:

    Couldn’t have had The Revival beat down the Dudleys? Nope. Couldn’t have Balor Club jump DX? Nope. Both of those things could have been interesting and pushing new talent. And I get that it was a night for nostalgia, but neither DX or The Dudleys would have had their legacy tarnished.

    I assume had the stuff with Enzo not come out today, the 205 Live Division would have gotten some airtime. Then again, if they built other people in the division up, they still could have gotten airtime.

    The Miz getting the IC title back, the interaction between Elias with Jericho and Cena, seeing Trish Stratus, and Asuka looking dominant were the bright spots for me.

  13. Dragon says:

    That pop for Austin brought me back to my childhood. Wish crowd reactions were more like that today.

  14. Unfortunate news..... says:

    It is with deep sadness that I have to announce to you all that Jay Huckleberry better known to all of you as Jay H.(the real one) passed away last night. Coroners have told me that it was a slow and painful death.

    Reports state he was watching the RAW 25th anniversary show and was so over come with excitement, his heart exploded.

    This is a tragic day as we mourn the loss of our friend. And if anyone comes on here using his user name and pretending to be him, you should be ashamed of yourself. Have a little class.

    • Jay H (the real one) says:

      Im dead? Boy that’s news to me. Also that’s not my last name either but why would i expect you to know that.

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