The Wrestling Observer Newsletter Awards Are Out

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13 Responses

  1. https says:

    You and this comment section are nothing more than brainwashed morons. You piss on Dave Meltzer for having a bias, yet you refuse to acknowledge that WWE has legitimate problems. Never mind the fact that NXT always gets a pass, because if Dave was this anti-WWE shill, why would he give a so-called “farm territory” the respect it deserves while criticizing the so-called “main roster” for its many, many faults? The only thing about these awards that suck are the fact they put over MMA despite being a pro wrestling-centric outlet and they never acknowledge any other promotion not named AEW. But no, you all think Meltzer and these awards are bullshit on the basis that they make WWE look bad, as if they needed any help in that department.

    You are pathetic, this website is pathetic, and this comment section is everything wrong with professional wresting. Get over yourselves.

  2. Justin Lewis says:

    You said the Owen Hart “Dark Side Of The Ring” wasn’t even the best episode last season. Which do you think it was?

    • Thomas Hall says:

      I liked the UWF one best. If nothing else for going into such details on a lesser known subject. To be clear: the Owen one was great as well and almost any episode would have been acceptable.

  3. Guy Incognito says:

    Thanks for reminding me what a bunch of meaningless horseshit these awards are.
    Clearly, Impact was not even considered here as nobody should win worst announcer while Matt Striker lives and breathes.
    Also, almost every big company laid off people during the pandemic.
    Between that and voting a guy who made billion dollar deals as “worst promoter”, the voters and Big Dave clearly know little to nothing about economics.
    Then again, these are probably the same people wondering why someone would go to WWE to make more $ to feed their family instead of getting a bigger push and a shiny belt in a smaller company.

  4. Jack-Hammer says:

    Meh, I don’t even pay attention to Meltzer’s awards. I only clicked here so I could read KB’s take on them. Even before I clicked, however, I knew the general formula would be something like New Japan/AEW = Good, WWE = Bad. And yeah, I was right.

    While it’s true fans vote on these awards, these are fans who pay money to read Meltzer’s stuff. As a result, these are people who, for the most part, see pro wrestling exactly how Meltzer does and what he says is pretty much gospel. Not to say that some of the choices aren’t legit and worthy of winning, but some really aren’t.

  5. Alpha says:

    If you look at how you rate AEW vs NXT you give AEW the up in quality almost every time.Your playing it up a little bit

  6. Darkshot77 says:

    A few things: Honestly the WWE attempting to control all of the extra curriculars of their “Independent Contractors” i.e. Twitch, Youtube, Cameo, etc. is far more disgusting than their yearly releases. But I would consider neither of those a “promotional tactic” I don’t know, what is that even? AEW lettting Matt Hardy continue to wrestle after falling 20 ft. directly onto concrete could have KILLED HIM. I don’t think I am over stating that. I agree with you on your assessment of that “Award”

    I for one enjoy all the silly over the top stuff that Impact does, it is part of their identity. In my opinion it was FAR from the worst weekly show, and to me it keeps getting better. I find AEW’s “Paid Adds” to be humorous but not overly harmful, but I can understand where you are coming from.

    Finally, Thank you for giving Ian Riccaboni the credit he is due for being one of if not the best Play-by-Play wresting announcer going right now. He has only been calling matches for 5 years but sounds like a seasoned pro. He is fantastic and deserves far more credit for making ROH that much more enjoyable.

  7. Joe Jones says:

    You thought Impact Wrestling’s weekly T.V. program should’ve been given “worst show” over WWE Raw? Not saying you’re wrong, but just surprised since it seems like you always give Impact decent grades on your show reviews.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      When Impact focuses on the wrestling instead of the goofy stuff, it blows Raw away. When Impact is doing their stupid bits and focusing on people like Tommy Dreamer, it sinks to far lower depths. Overall, neither is good but Raw doesn’t get that bad most of the time.

  8. ShawnHBK says:

    Hey KB,

    This is from a comment I read in another forum:

    Shouldn’t the best promoter be the one who has generated the most revenue or profit for their company which should be Vince based on the deals made every year.

    Also from a booking perspective, I find NXT to be more consistent among other shows.

    Regarding Raw, I would consider it to be more boring than bad. I was going through average raw ratings across years and it has always curved towards C grade more often than not.

    I understand that the voting is done by the members and not especially Dave but won’t the readers prone to vote towards what Dave has consistently made his opinion towards which is WWE bad others good? Before AEW it was NJPW which used to be his preferred option.

    What’s your take on that?

    • Thomas Hall says:

      That’s the definition of a promoter so yeah. For as good as AEW has done in a short time, they’re drawing about 800k a week or so on average in prime time on one of the biggest cable networks. That’s impressive, but WWE’s minor league is competitive with their A show and Raw/Smackdown regularly double (and more) AEW’s audience, with Smackdown on a much bigger network. Throw in all of their other deals and it isn’t a comparison (again: not a knock on AEW, but they’re up against the biggest company in the business which has a 40+ year head start).

      Booking: yeah I like NXT better, but at least it’s something you can compare.

      Absolutely that’s the case. It’s like saying people who watch MSNBC tend to lean left or people who watch FOX News tend to lean right. People who read Meltzer are going to lean towards him and he can’t stand WWE. There’s nothing wrong with that opinion, but to suggest that Meltzer isn’t a massive influence on the awards is nonsense.

  9. Terrance says:

    These awards were voted by readers of metlzer not picked by the man himself. You get that right? Your phrasing indicates that you seem to think Meltzer picked these.

    Also while conor McGregor did have a short match, he still made more money than anyone else in one match so what’s the issue there? That makes him the biggest box office draw.

    • Thomas Hall says:
      1. Yeah the voters vote on it. The voters on Meltzer’s site who pay to read Meltzer’s take. I would certainly think that he’s their biggest influence and the people who vote in his awards are going to parrot a good bit of what he says.
      2. As mentioned multiple times: it’s a different sport.

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