Wrestlepalooza 2025: The Newest New Era

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  1. Qwerdes says:

    It’s a new era when 50-year-old Lesnar wrestles 50-year-old Cena, or Punk wrestles Rollins. Flavor of the month wins the title, then she wrestles only once a month, just like Giulia or Iyo. That show was a 7 at best. AJ wrestled so slowly. Drew and Cody had an underwhelming build. You chose to ignore the storytelling aspect of the show—other than the Punk vs. Rollins feud, most of the stories were underwhelming. Brock cut one of the worst promos ever against R-Truth

    • Thomas Hall says:

      I’d hardly say I ignored it. I can get underwhelming, but the point of a lot of this was to wrap up the stories, not continue them.

  2. Redwerst says:

    I get that you like WWE, but man, you complain about WCW using older talent in reviews. Meanwhile, a 50-year-old Punk is wrestling a 40-year-old Seth Rollins, and 50-year-old Cena is wrestling 50-year-old Lesnar. Yet you still gave that show an 8.5, which means you thought it was great — but in reality, it was basically a one-match show. AJ Lee wrestled so slowly, and Drew, Cody, and Steph vs. Iyo had an underwhelming build. If you’re reviewing the show, at least be honest about it instead of just standing up for WWE.

    • Sebastian Howard says:

      Completely agreed.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      Well aside from none of them being that old, they’re also still drawing and making a fortune, as opposed to WCW, which is the all time disaster of major wrestling promotions. Also, Cena is gone in what, three months max? He’s hardly the centerpiece of the promotion.

      • Qwerdes says:

        When Hogan (45) vs. Warrior (39) or Hogan (43) vs. Piper (42) happened, that was their age. They were a lot younger than the current top guys like Punk, Cena, Lesnar, or even LA Knight. Also, the last WWE PPV that had a four-way title match had a combined average age of 41. Even on the women’s side, they are relying on Becky, Asuka, and Charlotte.

        • Thomas Hall says:

          Yeah, and the stuff you’re seeing today is about 198 miles better than any of that. It isn’t about the age. It’s about how they’re doing, both in the ring and at the box office, which isn’t anywhere close to the same ballpark as WCW. They’re also bringing in other stars and putting them in prominent positions, as they did on this show.

          • Qwerdes says:

            You said that none of the current stars are old. Now you’re saying they are box-office draws. WCW was drawing great in 1998, so by that logic, you should praise the show since you care about box-office draws. Second, how many new talents are being elevated? Priest, LA Knight, Jey Uso, Gunther, and Drew are all floundering. Drew or Gunther squashing Cena could do wonders for them. Instead, a 50-year-old Lesnar beats Cena and moves on.

          • Thomas Hall says:

            I was trying to say that the ages you listed for all of them are wrong.

            As for which new talents were being elevated, you have people like Stephanie Vaquer, Bronson Reed and Bron Breakker, all of whom won on Saturday. Dominik Mysterio is becoming a bigger star week by week. There’s also Jacob Fatu, Rhea Ripley, Iyo Sky, Logan Paul, Tiffany Stratton and, as you mentioned, Gunther.

          • Qwerdes says:

            The only star WWE has elevated is Rhea. Jacob Fatu lost to Solo Sikoa, meanwhile 40-year-old Sami Zayn beat him three times. Most of the titles don’t mean anything—Dominik barely defends his. Tiffany has been feuding with Nia Jax for the last 9 months. Logan Paul is a star because of YouTube, not because of WWE. Calling them “stars” is a stretch when Elimination Chamber has a hard time selling out, and even The Rock said in an interview that’s why he had to show up.

          • Thomas Hall says:

            If you don’t think Fatu or Mysterio have been elevated, I don’t know what to tell you.

          • Qwerdes says:

            Jacob Fatu is supposedly so elevated that he disappeared from SmackDown. The last time he appeared, he played second fiddle to Sami Zayn. Also, they claim to have elevated Dominik Mysterio, but he barely defends his title.

          • Thomas Hall says:

            Mysterio is set to defend the title next week on Raw. That’s his second title defense on Raw this month alone and follows his previous successful title defense at Summerslam in August.

          • Qwerdes says:

            Dominik has held the title for almost six months, and he’s had only five defenses. What amazing booking

          • Thomas Hall says:

            Actually he won it on April 20, so it’s been five months and about three days. A title defense a month has been about the standard for decades in WWE. His sixth, which puts him at over one a month, is in less than a week (and that’s not counting house shows).

          • Qwerdes says:

            So you pretty much agree with me that WWE creates only one or two stars. No wonder they rely on pops. They keep signing older wrestlers like Lesnar, AJ Lee, Nikki Bella, Rusev, and Aleister Black. Can’t wait for Jericho and Paige to return next year.

          • Thomas Hall says:

            Uh, no not really no, as I listed a lot more below. If you disagree then cool, but no, making new stars isn’t an issue for them right now.

          • Qwerdes says:

            Just because someone gets a pop does not mean they are stars. Elimination Chamber had a hard time selling out—that’s not me saying it, that’s what The Rock said in an interview. SmackDown was doing 6–7k attendance before Cena’s heel turn and retirement tour (check WrestleTix). There’s a reason “King of Pops” Triple H keeps bringing in older wrestlers: the younger ones can’t draw. The only stars they’ve really created are Rhea, and maybe Dominik that’s about it.

  3. Aeon Ultima says:

    I thought you rated Lesnar vs Cena too high, but again your reviews and i was legitimately annoyed after watching it live. If it’s really just an angle for a rematch sure, but we are really wasting one of Cena’s final appearances on this? I’m still in awe how badly botched Cena’s final run has been. I watched an interview of him talking about it and saying “i cant talk about it much but after december i will”.

  4. Cam says:

    I thought the show was solid. But Cena vs Lesnar is minus five stars. I’m tired of that bullshit Brock match, and it was an absolute waste to do that again with Cena this close to the end. Worst match of the year.

    • Thomas Hall says:

      In theory it sets up a rematch for Cena’s last match, or at Crown Jewel. Though yeah, I can see that style getting old after doing it so often over the years.

  5. David Thomson says:

    I liked this show and pretty much agree with your review, although the Brock/Cena could have had a bit more time. However I didn’t watch this live, as I fast-forwarded most of the non-wrestling stuff between the matches, so watching it live might have changed my opinion. I also haven’t seen AEW All Out yet, so I don’t have that to compare to.

  6. Sebastian Howard says:

    So you blow the overly long mixed tag match Winfree from 411 says ” Thoughts: This did not need almost 30 minutes, at least 10-12 minutes lost the crowd in a pretty big way. It’s a testament to the wrestlers that they were able to get the crowd back after a middle third or so that struggled that hard. AJ looked OK with some of the physicality but her timing, especially on pins and kick outs was visibly off.”

    I agree more with winfree, it was way too long, the crowd was too dead and they spent too long on the heat segment with punk in peril. A lot of AJ’s shit looked awkward especially those horrible windmill slaps. Punk also looked completely pussywhipped as he was wearing a AJ’s Husband shirt and was wearing like troon colors for some reason and letting AJ boss him around. That’s kind of a nitpick but still obnoxious.

    “It’s a good match and felt important, but they weren’t following the mixed tag and there wasn’t much of a way around that.” LOL what, no Cody/Drew was better than the mixed tag dude. You’re right that Drew hasn’t been built up well AT ALL but the match was still better, didn’t have an incredibly boring heat segment and didn’t feel botched or awkward at all. The main problem with it is it continues to cement Drew as a fucking jobber loser but whatever I wasn’t expecting much as you mentioned. Still a much better match than the overly long pretentious lets make our wives look good mixed tag match and actually woke the crowd up.

    So 411 gives All Out an 8 and palooza a 7, hey I think even a 7 is generous tbh but that’s better than you giving what All out a b and this a b plus? This was NOT a b plus show dude you are tripping and no one is praising this show. Oh yeah another disappointment about this show, Triple H said to expect some surprises at the end of the show or during. What surprises? Nothing happened. People were expecting The Rock to come out or something to happen at the end of the show. Nothing happened. Cody pins Drew 123 and its over. The only surprising thing was how shitty Lesnar/Cena was and the fact that Cena got squashed. The only things saving this show were the main and Vaquer/Iyo (which ok it was a good match but they both have no character).

    • Thomas Hall says:

      I really do not care that my opinion isn’t in line with everyone else’s (and that’s of course ignoring that not everyone is in lockstep hatred over this show).

  7. Sebastian Howard says:

    ” Pretty great show here, with nothing bad and a feeling like you were watching something special”

    Bro wtf are you talking about? EVERYONE IS HATING ON THIS SHOW ONLINE ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Nothing bad, really? Nothing bad? Its becoming more and more obvious that you’re a WWE shill every day. Dude Cena got squashed by Lesnar in under 10 minutes during his fucking retirement tour. Punk/AJ vs Seth/Becky had ridiculously contrived spots with a completely dead crowd (the crowd was obviously deflated from Cena getting buried at the start of the show) and Cody/Drew was a pretty flat match with Cody beating Drew clean cementing the fact that Drew is basically a main eventer jobber as he wasn’t won a big match since he beat Punk at Summerslam over a year ago. Add on top of that the fact that you had fucking adds on a PPV or PLE whatever that you had to pay 30 bucks for a subscription like come on dude are you serious? I really don’t know if I’m going to keep on coming here because the pro WWE bias is getting ridiculous, like Jim Cornette levels. Everyone but you is saying this show sucked because it did. I mean goddamn you even defended Cena’s dog shit heel run giving him vs Cody at Mania a decent rating for whatever reason and tried to defend Cena/Orton at Backlash which was literally just finisher spam. Y’know I wonder, you’ve been to multiple WWE shows right? Have you ever been to an AEW show? IDK the bias is just so ridiculous, even HARDCORE WWE MARKS are saying palooza sucked and that all out was better yet you give this a better rating and actually have the balls to say nothing on this show was bad?

    • Thomas Hall says:

      Well, I’m not hating on it. I guess that makes me wrong though.

      Also, as someone who was part of that crowd, you’re rather wrong about it being deflated.

      • Sebastian Howard says:

        I mean from tv I could tell the crowd was just dead for most of the mixed tag. Also Winfree wrote about that match “This did not need almost 30 minutes, at least 10-12 minutes lost the crowd in a pretty big way. It’s a testament to the wrestlers that they were able to get the crowd back after a middle third or so that struggled that hard. ” and then for the main ” Decent match, the lack of heat was a problem and they did a decent job protecting Drew with a few odd moments from the ref.” So I’m not the only one noticing lack of heat.

    • Anonymous says:

      You need to relax. Not everyone likes the same things you do or feels the same way about various things that you do.

      He doesn’t have to reply to you and he doesn’t have to put up with this nonsense every week. I would have banned you a long time ago if you I was in his shoes.

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