Survivor Series 2002 (2024 Edition): What Was I Thinking?

Survivor Series 2002
Date: November 17, 2002
Location: Madison Square Garden, New York City, New York
Attendance: 17,930
Commentators: Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler, Michael Cole, Tazz

This is a show with one heck of a main event as the Elimination Chamber makes its debut. The idea is that Raw wants to one up Smackdown’s Cell match the previous month and a major tradition was born. On the Smackdown side, Brock Lesnar is defending the World Title against the Big Show. Let’s get to it.

The opening video looks at the two World Title matches, with Eric Bischoff introducing the Elimination Chamber.

Bubba Ray Dudley/Spike Dudley/Spike Dudley vs. 3 Minute Warning/Rico

This is an elimination tables match, with JR bringing up TLC matches taking place in this building. That has never happened, but odds are he’s thinking of the tables match between the Hardys and the Dudleys at Royal Rumble 2000. The villains are sent outside to start so Bubba throws Spike onto them. Spike gets pulled out of the air, naturally setting up a dive from Jeff to take everyone down.

Back in and Rico hammers on Bubba in the corner, which doesn’t last long as Bubba chops him away. Spike is back in with a What’s Up to Jamal and Jeff hits a top rope legdrop version. The tables are brought in, allowing Rosey to run Bubba over with a clothesline. One heck of a backdrop sends Jeff to the floor but Rosey’s charge into the corner only hits table. That’s not an elimination because it didn’t come from the other team’s offense so Rosey is right back up with a splash to Jeff.

Spike gets sent hard through a table (you can tell it was bad as Lawler wants to see it again) so 3 Minute Warning goes up, only to have both of them get crotched. Poetry In Motion is cut off so Rosey and Hardy fight into the crowd. Back in and Rico kicks away at Bubba, who pulls Rico into the way of Jamal’s charge. Ray goes up to save Hardy, setting up a heck of a Swanton off the balcony through a table to get rid of Rosey.

Back in and Jamal puts Bubba onto a table but Hardy takes FOREVER to make the save (giving us an infamous moment of Rico screaming for Jeff to get over here already). Hardy cleans house but slips while trying to run the barricade, leaving Jamal to shove a table at Jeff’s head instead for a nasty crash.

A giant top rope splash puts Jeff through the table, leaving us with Bubba vs. Jamal/Rico. Back in and Jamal takes too long loading up a hurricanrana, allowing Ray to powerbomb him through a table. Jamal and Rosey are back up to go after Bubba but D-Von Dudley runs in for the big save and one heck of a reaction. The 3D puts Rico through the table for the win at 14:22.

Rating: B-. And that’s how they brought the Dudleys back together to end the split up runs, which really weren’t working that well. The two of them just work better together and it was the right move to make. It’s also a good way to give the match a happy ending, though it was a good, hard hitting fight until then. I’m not wild on the match being that long, but it gave us a nice ending so it works out well enough.

Stacy Keibler is at the World and introduces Saliva to play Always to look at the rest of the card.

Cruiserweight Title: Billy Kidman vs. Jamie Noble

Kidman is challenging and debuts his awesome theme music (the one with “you can run if you want to”), which should counter Nidia in Noble’s corner. An early running hurricanrana takes Noble down to start but he’s back in with a shot to take over. Kidman fights up and hits a quick backbreaker for a breather, followed by a running elbow. The fireman’s carry backbreaker gets two but Noble is right back with a Falcon Arrow for two of his own.

Back up and Kidman takes him down to load up the shooting star press, with Nidia breaking it up. The big dive drops Noble again and the slingshot legdrop gets two back inside. Noble slips out of a powerbomb (make your own jokes) and hits a tiger bomb for a rather near fall. They both go up top so Kidman can hit a heck of a top rope DDT for two, only for Noble to put him on top for a hanging DDT and his own near fall. Kidman shrugs that off, knocks Noble down, shrugs off Nidia’s distraction, and hits the shooting star press for the pin at 7:31.

Rating: B. Maybe it was due to the title feeling unimportant, but dang they were working out there and it wound up being a heck of a back and forth match. That’s what you should have done for something like this and I was digging what we got. Really hard hitting match here and Kidman gets a definitive win after surviving everything Noble threw at him.

Kurt Angle thinks he and Chris Benoit can win the Tag Team Titles. Benoit wants to fight but Angle talks about their partnership to calm him down. A handshake is offered, but Angle would rather hug. Goofy Angle continues to be hysterical.

Victoria beats up her mirror for thinking Trish Stratus is prettier.

We recap Victoria challenging Trish Stratus for the Women’s Title. They had worked together as fitness models until WWE wanted them both. Victoria implied that Stratus held her back so now Victoria is here to make up for lost time. And revenge. And the title.

Women’s Title: Trish Stratus vs. Victoria

Victoria is challenging in a hardcore match and jumps Stratus from behind before she can even take the belt off. Some choking with Stratus’ jacket has her in more trouble and Victoria grabs a broom. That takes too long though and Stratus monkey flips her over, only for Victoria to choke with the broom instead. Stratus throws her off the top with the boom though and grabs a trashcan lid, which is knocked back into her face with the same broom (that’s not a winner for Stratus so far).

The slingshot flipping legdrop gives Victoria two but it takes too long to set up a trashcan in the corner. Stratus uses said delay to catapult her face first into the trashcan and then grab an ironing board. Victoria is whipped through the board and Stratus uses a trashcan lid to smash Stratus in the face. A powerbomb gives Victoria two and she grabs a big mirror. That takes too long so Victoria sprays her with a fire extinguisher and grabs a suplex of all things for the pin and the title at 7:02.

Rating: B-. They beat the fire out of each other here and it felt like they were trying to win a fight. The ending wasn’t exactly great, but the weapon shots were the focal point here rather than the suplex. This was a solid way to make Victoria feel like a big deal right out of the gate and that is what they were trying to do.

Eric Bischoff brags about one upping Smackdown with the Elimination Chamber when Big Show comes in. Show promises to make Bischoff regret letting him go to Smackdown. By taking out Smackdown’s top star? That’s quite the weird way to g.

Lesnar is ready, with Paul Heyman being worried about what is going to happen.

We recap Big Show vs. Brock Lesnar. Show has debuted on Smackdown and injured Lesnar, with Paul Heyman not being sure if Lesnar is strong enough to deal with someone Show’s size. Lesnar wants to fight and is definitely leaning towards the good side for the first time.

Smackdown World Title; Brock Lesnar vs. Big Show

Lesnar, with Paul Heyman, is defending. They shove each other around to start as the fans are pretty firmly behind Lesnar. Show, who has a banged up arm, gets smart by going after the ribs and sending Lesnar flying out of the corner. Lesnar is right back with a spear and sends Show outside to hammer away.

Back in and Lesnar manages a belly to back suplex before busting out the expected German suplex. The referee gets bumped and Lesnar muscles Show up for a belly to belly. Heyman throws in a chair, which Lesnar smashes onto Show’s head. The F5 connects and another referee runs out…but Heyman breaks up the count. Lesnar realizes what happened and chases Heyman, right into a chair to the ribs from Show. A chokeslam onto the chair is enough to pin Lesnar for the first time at 4:18.

Rating: C. I’ve never been much of a fan of his, but time and the longer term storytelling with it (as Show would be little more than a transitional champion to Kurt Angle) have softened me on it a bit. They got in and out with a quick match as Lesnar gets screwed out of the title in a variety of ways. Show has been a monster like few others around this point so having him steal the title makes sense. It’s not good, but it’s also not as bad as I remember.

Post match Show and Heyman run off with the title and leave in a waiting car.

We recap the Smackdown Tag Team Title match. Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle wn the inaugural titles but keep arguing, with Edge and Rey Mysterio winning the titles in a classic. Los Guerreros are involved too and so it’s Smackdown Six time for the titles.

Smackdown Tag Team Titles: Kurt Angle/Chris Benoit vs. Edge/Rey Mysterio vs. Los Guerreros

Edge and Mysterio are defending under elimination rules. They glare at each other to start until Benoit and Mysterio get things going. One heck of a chop rocks Mysterio and then a second one does it again. Mysterio manages a flapjack of all things and drops a leg on Benoit’s neck, allowing the tag off to Edge to keep the pace up. Angle comes in and gets punched in the face so he forcibly brings Chavo in instead.

Mysterio is right back in with the springboard splash for two but Chavo drops him on his face. Eddie comes in to stomp away, only to get dropped with an anklescissors. Another one sends Angle into the corner, where Benoit swings at Mysterio because he’s smart enough to do a little thing like that. Mysterio goes up but slips off the top, allowing Angle to stomp away. Benoit comes in with a neckbreaker and drops him with a belly to back for two.

We settle down a bit with Angle and Benoit taking turns beating on Mysterio, with Angle grabbing a front facelock. That goes on for a good while, until Mysterio slips out of a suplex and scores with a nice spinwheel kick to the face. Los Guerreros bail from Angle’s tag attempt so it’s Benoit vs. Edge instead, with the latter taking out everyone. Edge gets caught in the ankle lock and Crossface at the same time but Mysterio makes the save with a seated senton.

Eddie comes back in but gets suplexed to the floor, followed by Edge getting suplexed to the mat with the rolling German suplexes. The frog splash hits Edge but the Swan Dive hits Eddie, setting up the double submissions. Angle isn’t legal though so the referee breaks it up, allowing Chavo to hit Benoit with the belt. Chavo throws said belt to Angle, which Benoit sees, meaning the argument is on. Mysterio takes out Chavo and Edge spears Benoit for the elimination at 13:10.

Angle and Benoit beat up Edge and Mysterio before leaving, only to argue in the aisle because that’s what they do. Eddie snaps off a suplex to Edge and a baseball slide gives Chavo two. The sleeper goes on but Edge is right out, only to get dropkicked by Chavo. Eddie hits another suplex and the front facelock goes on again. That’s broken up and Edge hits a double flapjack, which is enough to bring Mysterio in to clean house. Everything breaks down and Mysterio hits the 619, only to have Chavo hit him with a belt. Edge is taken out and the Lasso From El Paso gives Los Guerreros the titles at 19:24.

Rating: A-. Yeah of course this was great and I don’t know what else should have been expected. These people know how to work well together and they were allowed to do their thing for about twenty minutes here. WWE knew what they had with these guys and just let them go, which is why this era is so fondly remembered. Awesome stuff here, as was the case every time they were out there together.

Here is Christopher Nowinski to say that intelligence is different than street smarts. You either have intelligence or you don’t and the people here clearly don’t. Cue Matt Hardy, who keeps the room temperature at a toasty 75 degrees and only drinks lowfat chocolate milk, to say that he is happy to see this building overflowing with Mattitude.

These stupid people are sucking the Mattitude out of the arena though and he is choking worse than the Knicks (JR: “I don’t know about that.”). This just keeps going for far too long until Scott Steiner debuts and takes them both out. Steiner gets in the catchphrase to wrap it up. WAY too long, as I’m wondering if Steiner’s cue was late or something, as you could tell Hardy and Nowinski were out of things to say.

The Chamber is lowered.

Shawn Michaels talks about his chances in the Chamber but we get an RNN BREAKING NEWS. He came all the way to Survivor Series, but don’t worry, because a flight attendant gave him an extra pillow and his shoulder was protected. He’ll be back in no time.

We recap the Elimination Chamber, with HHH having issues with everyone involved and all of them wanting the title. Eric Bischoff introduced the idea to one up Smackdown using the Cell and everyone always wants to go after HHH. This gets the music video treatment with Always by Saliva.

HHH is ready for the Chamber because he’s the best. He has a first class ticket to H*** and he wants t know who’s coming with him.

Here is Eric Bischoff to walk through the Chamber and explain the whole thing concept. The fact that his rather long speech is summed up by a graphic running down the rules, and JR explaining it in far less time, makes this feel unnecessary.

Raw World Title: HHH vs. Booker T. vs. Rob Van Dam vs .Kane vs. Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels

HHH, with Ric Flair, is defending and it’s HHH in at #1 and Van Dam in at #2 (And Jericho gets played to the ring by Saliva…who is in concert at the World, which is certainly unique. Maybe not good, but unique.). HHH drives him into the corner to start but Van Dam, who is rather popular, kicks him in the face and then again in the chest. The facebuster connects for HHH as commentary goes over the rules (and does a much better job than Bischoff).

They go outside for some whips to send HHH into the wall over and over, with the door popping open. A monkey flip sends the already bleeding HHH onto the Chamber floor and there’s Rolling Thunder from inside to outside. Van Dam goes up onto a pod but Jericho pulls him down, though Van Dam is able to crotch HHH on top anyway. More kicks have HHH down and it’s Jericho in at #3.

That’s fine with Van Dam, who jumps from the top to the Chamber wall, where he holds on and then dives onto Jericho with a crossbody. HHH is back up and hits the jumping knee to Van Dam before the villains take him outside again. Some hard whips send Van Dam into the wall before a DDT cuts off the comeback. Booker T. comes at #4 and cleans house, including the Spinarooni.

Van Dam slugs it out with Booker T. with the step over kick to the face giving Van Dam two. The side kick gives Booker the same but HHH is back up. Van Dam kicks him down and goes up to the top of a pod for the Five Star, with his knee landing on HHH’s throat (that was a nasty injury). Instead of covering, Booker hits a missile dropkick to get rid of Van Dam at 13:40. Booker covers HHH for two but Jericho is back up with the bulldog. An Alabama Slam gives Booker one and it’s Kane in at #5 to change things up a bit.

House is quickly cleaned again, including Jericho being sent into various things, such as through the Plexiglas. Jericho is busted open as well but he’s fine enough to hit Booker low, allowing Kane to hit a chokeslam. The Lionsault gets rid of Booker at 17:45 and we’re down to four. Jericho and HHH start double teaming Kane a bit, only for Kane to break that up without much effort. HHH gets slammed off the top but Jericho is back with the middle rope dropkick to leave everyone down.

Shawn is in at #6 to complete the field (with the entrance times being pretty close) and is quickly dropped by Kane. The running forearm cuts Kane down but he’s right back up so chokeslams can abound. Shawn is able to hit a superkick but Kane sits up, so it’s a Pedigree into a Lionsault to get rid of Kane at 22:35.

Jericho sends Shawn over the top and into the steel again and the double teaming is on. This time it’s HHH throwing Shawn over so he can rake Shawn’s face into the wall. Shawn, also bleeding, tries to fight back but gets backdropped onto the floor for a nasty crash. Back in and Shawn hits the forearm on HHH but Jericho hits the bulldog into the Lionsault…for two. And now we’re into the stretching portion, as Shawn can suddenly survive things that have beaten Booker and Kane. Shawn gets the Walls on Jericho until HHH breaks it up with a DDT.

Jericho going for the pin doesn’t please HHH so the villains get into it, with HHH hitting a hard clothesline. The facebuster gives HHH two but the Pedigree is countered into the Walls. Shawn breaks it up with the superkick and pins Jericho at 30:41, leaving us one on one. They slowly slug it out until HHH’s spinebuster gets two and they’re both slow to get up.

A backdrop sends Shawn onto the steel floor, where his own Pedigree attempt is countered into a catapult through more Plexiglas. Since it’s Shawn, he fights back again and sends HHH int the steel again, followed by a clothesline back into the ring. For some reason Shawn goes all the way to the top of the pod to drop the elbow. Instead of covering, Shawn tunes up the band but it gets reversed into the Pedigree for a rather delayed two. Another Pedigree is loaded up and Shawn hits the superkick to win the title at 39:40.

Rating: B. I’ve seen this match a bunch of times now and I’m still not sure what I think of the thing. It tells a good story, the action is there, it might be a bit longer than it needs to be, but what we get is quite good. On paper, I should like it rather well, but as usual, there is one thing that bugs me about the whole thing, and that is Shawn himself.

As many times as I’ve seen this, it always feels a bit ridiculous that Shawn could survive all of these things. He’s getting up from multiple finishers and one heck of a beating. I know the fans went nuts on the ending and all that and it does feel like a special moment, but dang it never comes off as right. Maybe this works better as a one fall match, but I can never get my head around him beating five of the best on Raw at the time.

Confetti falls for the big celebration to end the show.

Overall Rating: B+. I hadn’t realized how good of a show this really is, as you have one awesome match, a good main event and enough other strong stuff throughout to make it work very well. Lesnar vs. Show is only ok, but it barely breaks four minutes and was certainly memorable. My issues with the main event aside, this is definitely worth a look and it’s a heck of a show overall.

Ratings Comparison

Dudley Boyz/Jeff Hardy vs. Rico/3 Minute Warning

Original: B
2012 Redo: B-
2017 Redo: C+
2024 Redo: B-

Billy Kidman vs. Jamie Noble

Original: C+
2012 Redo: B-
2017 Redo: C+
2024 Redo: B

Victoria vs. Trish Stratus

Original: C-
2012 Redo: B
2017 Redo: B-
2024 Redo: B-

Big Show vs. Brock Lesnar

Original: D-
2012 Redo: D+
2017 Redo: C-
2024 Redo: C

Los Guerreros vs. Kurt Angle/Chris Benoit vs. Edge/Rey Mysterio

Original: B
2012 Redo: B+
2017 Redo: B
2024 Redo: A-

Shawn Michaels vs. HHH vs. Booker T vs. Rob Van Dam vs. Kane vs. Chris Jericho

Original: B
2012 Redo: D+
2017 Redo: B
2024 Redo: B

Overall Rating

Original: B-
2012 Redo: C+
2017 Redo: C+
2024 Redo: B+

That one main event rating is bizarre enough but the overall ratings over the years are ridiculous. The show is a near classic rather than the good at best I gave it before.

 

 

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Survivor Series Count-Up – 2001 (2012 Redo): It Should Have Been More

Survivor Series 2001
Date: November 18, 2001
Location: Greensboro Coliseum, Greensboro, North Carolina
Attendance: 10,142
Commentators: Jim Ross, Paul Heyman

I’ve talked about the Invasion over and over and over as have a bunch of other people so I’ll spare you the big explanation of it. In short, WWF bought WCW and ECW (or close enough to that at least) and over the summer and fall of 2001, squandered what could arguably have been a billion dollars’ worth of stories, feuds and shocks. But hey, why make a fortune when you can destroy WCW and have a final blowoff in the home of Starrcade where you can say HAHA I BEAT YOU TURNER and crush WCW once and for all? That’s the whole show for the most part. It’s one Survivor Series match, winner take all. Let’s get to it.

The opening video is a cool idea as it shows all of the old logos for the WWF over the years and a bunch of great moments in company history, set to a song called The End Is Here. Tonight it’s winner take all in the main event.

European Title: Christian vs. Al Snow

Christian is in the Alliance and defending. He greets his fans in South Carolina and says he’s awesome. Snow comes out to the Tough Enough theme which is always awesome. Snow takes him down to the mat which frustrates the champ. Christian comes back with a foot on Snow’s face in the corner followed by a Russian legsweep for two. We hit the chinlock as the match slows down.

Snow fights up and hits his headbutts but Christian hits a tiger driver backbreaker for two. Snow gets rammed into the buckle and things slow down again. The trapping headbutts hit Christian again and Snow escapes the reverse DDT into a neckbreaker for two. Heyman schilling for the Alliance guy is always funny. A sitout powerbomb gets two for Snow and now Christian’s reverse DDT hits for no cover. Instead Christian talks a lot of trash and gets rolled up for two. A top rope cross body is rolled through by Snow and the Snow Plow gets two. There’s the Unprettier out of nowhere to keep the title in the Alliance. That was quick.

Rating: C-. This is one of those shows where anything but the main event means nothing, which makes the first hour and a half of the show pretty uninteresting to sit through. This match was fine but it could have been on Smackdown on any given week. Snow and Christian are both good hands so a good match is really nothing shocking at all.

Austin arrives and yells at the Alliance. He doesn’t like being accused of being a traitor to the Alliance. This would be a lot better if Stephanie had more acting ability than say, a carrot. Austin yells at everyone on the team and says stop being paranoid.

Vince and Linda arrive with Vince brimming with confidence. Cole comes up and says this might be their last night in business but Vince doesn’t want to hear talk like that. Vince talks about taking calculated risks and being confident because someone is jumping to the WWF. Regal comes up and says he doesn’t buy the idea that Austin is jumping back to the WWF.

William Regal vs. Tajiri

Regal hurt Tajiri’s girlfriend Torrie on Smackdown to set this up. Also these two used to be friends. Tajiri is Cruiserweight Champion and was supposed to face X-Pac in a title for title match, but according to Commissioner Mick Foley, “No one cared about X-Pac or the Light Heavyweight Title anyway”. Tajiri fires off a kick but gets suplexed right back down.

The knee trembler takes Tajiri down but Tajiri goes after Regal’s knee with the kicks. There’s the Tarantula and Regal is bleeding from the nose. A handspring elbow gets two for Tajiri but Regal ties his head up in the ropes to stop the momentum dead. Regal tries a powerbomb but gets countered by another kick to the head. The Buzzsaw Kick misses and there’s the Tiger Bomb from Regal for the pin. Too short to rate but it was fine. Short, but fine.

Regal powerbombs him again post match. Torrie (looking GREAT in a purple top and leather pants) comes out to check on Tajiri, only to get powerbombed as well.

We recap Edge vs. Test. These two are both midcard champions after the seemingly dozens of never ending midcard title changes going on at this point. Edge is US Champion, Test is IC Champion, tonight only one belt survives.

Test complains about the makeup lady not rubbing in the oil well enough on him. Stacy comes up and agrees with Test. Test hits on her and she’ll think about it if he wins.

Edge compares himself to Test and says that there are a lot of similarities between them. The difference is that Edge hasn’t been dumped by every chick on the planet. Edge makes fun of Test for sounding wooden and that’s about it.

Intercontinental Title/US Title: Edge vs. Test

They fight over control to start with Edge taking over via a series of forearms to the head. Test powers him down and goes after the ribs with a wide ranging selection of stomps. We head to the floor with Edge being dropped across the barricade to further the attack on the ribs. Back in and Edge hits a dropkick to take over before we head outside again. Back in quickly and a swinging neckbreaker gets two for Edge.

Test drops Edge onto the top rope ribs first to reinjure him and the taller of the blonde Canadian champions takes over again. Test puts on a chinlock as the match slows down again. Edge fights up and avoids a corner charge before hitting a middle rope missile dropkick for two. A middle rope cross body misses though and Test puts him on the top rope.

Edge blocks a superplex with some CANADIAN right hands to the ribs but a sunset bomb doesn’t work. Test dives off the top but jumps right into a dropkick to put him down. The problem with this match is neither guy has been able to build up any kind of a run with the title as both have changed hands four times since the InVasion began about four months ago. How can you get behind either guy as a big time champion in that little bit of time? On top of that, Edge has been champion for six days and Test for thirteen. That’s not exactly Honky Tonk Man unifying with Luger in the late 80s.

Both guys are down now but it’s Edge up first with some clotheslines and a spinwheel kick. Test’s pumphandle slam is countered into the Edge-O-Matic for two. Test spears Edge down for two but the big boot misses. There’s the pumphandle for two but Test’s powerbomb is countered into a rana. Edge’s spear gets a close two but he can’t hit the Edgecution. Test tries a full nelson slam but Edge rolls through for the pin and both titles.

Rating: C+. This started pretty slow but it got going once Edge was able to start countering Test’s power stuff. In other words, Edge did the work to make Test’s generic big man offense look decent. This was probably the match of the night, which isn’t surprising given how hot Edge got in the next year.

Angle comes up to see a stressed out Stephanie. My goodness her acting is bad. I know I say that a lot, but IT’S FREAKING TERRIBLE. She says if the Alliance loses tonight, she’ll have to buy her own groceries and wash her own car. She can’t be a…..a…..a REGULAR PERSON!!! Angle reminds her that she’s special and doesn’t think Austin will jump.

A cage is lowered.

Jeff and Lita are talking about Matt being different lately. Matt comes up and yells at them for acting strange and not being focused enough. It turns into a rallying speech and things seem ok. The guys leave and Trish comes out of the same locker room Matt came out of earlier. It says Team WWF so maybe there’s nothing there……..but maybe there is. DUN DUN DUN!

WCW Tag Titles/WWF Tag Titles: Dudley Boys vs. Hardy Boys

In a cage. The Dudleys are WCW Champions and the Hardys are the WWF Champions and Stacy is STUNNING at this point as the Dudleys’ manager. All four belts get laid out between the guys in the ring and it’s time to go. There are tags required here and it’s Matt vs. Bubba to start. Matt can’t get anywhere so it’s off to Jeff who walks into a Boss Man Slam for two.

D-Von comes in as Heyman talks about Big Daddy Dudley which JR could not care less about. Back to Matt who rolls D-Von up for two but walks into a reverse inverted DDT for two. Bubba comes in again and drops a bunch of elbows for two. The Dudleys tag in and out a lot and it’s back to Bubba for more punching to Matt’s ribs. Bubba tries to ram Matt into the cage but Matt counters into a reverse DDT.

Off to Jeff who cleans house as everything breaks down quickly. Poetry in Motion hits Bubba and Matt climbs but D-Von makes the save. It’s pin/submission/double escape to win here and there’s a Bubba Bomb off the top to Jeff. Wouldn’t that hurt both of them equally? Bubba goes up again but Matt slams him down for two. Matt gets rammed into the cage but when the Dudleys try to do the same to Jeff, he grabs the cage and tries to climb out, only to get caught in a Doomsday Device (Paul: “WHAT A RUSH!”).

Matt gets crushed against the cage and Bubba whips D-Von into him for good measure. Bubba splashes him as well and the Dudleys are in full control. Jeff gets in a shot and Matt hits a top rope double clothesline to shift the momentum just as fast though. A DDT puts Bubba down for two and Jeff hits the legdrop between D-Von’s legs. A double backdrop takes Ray down again and the Hardys go up.

Matt hits a legdrop and Jeff hits a splash off the top at the same time for two on Bubba. Matt makes a climb but gets pulled down with one leg still stuck in the cage. What’s Up to Jeff and Bubba asks Stacy for a table. Stacy hits on Nick Patrick and picks the key out of his pocket. There’s a table in the ring now but Matt breaks up the 3D by jumping Bubba. Why D-Von didn’t flapjack Jeff through the table is anyone’s guess.

Bubba and Matt go tot he top and pound away at each other until Bubba is knocked down. Matt climbs down to escape but he’s left alone against the Dudleys. D-Von is rammed into the cage a few times and Jeff goes up as D-Von climbs onto the table for no apparent reason. Jeff looks down and sees D-Von there before diving off the top of the cage, but the Swanton misses. Bubba covers the table and therefore Jeff as well for the pin and the titles.

Rating: B-. This was the usual good brawl between these teams and it furthers the Hardys’ issues, but at the end of the day this feud was played out at this point. There was nothing left for these two teams to do and at this point it was being dragged out way too far. Still though, good match and a good way to I believe finally end this nearly two year long feud.

Jeff is taken out on a stretcher.

Mick Foley is at WWF New York and admits that his job (WWF Commissioner) means nothing.

Scotty 2 Hotty is about to be in the Immunity Battle Royal but Test beats him up to take his spot.

Immunity Battle Royal

Test, Billy Gunn, Bradshaw, Farrooq, Lance Storm, Billy Kidman, Diamond Dallas Page, Albert, Tazz, Perry Saturn, Raven, Chuck Palumbo, Crash Holly, Justin Credible, Shawn Stasiak, Steven Richards, Tommy Dreamer, The Hurricane, Spike Dudley, Hugh Morrus, Chavo Guerrero Jr., Funaki

No matter who wins the main event tonight, the winner of this is guaranteed a job for a year. Stasiak is thrown to the floor before the bell rings and is apparently out. Test drops to the floor to hide as Tazz comes in late. Since it’s a battle royal there’s really not much to talk about here. Everyone punches everyone and no one is put out for awhile. Heyman freaks out about Tazz because Tazz choked him out on Smackdown.

Hurricane dives at Farrooq and is clotheslined out by Bradshaw. Albert throws Saturn out and Test, who is back in now, dumps Farrooq. Page is put out by someone we can’t see and Storm superkicks Palumbo out. Morrus and Chavo run in as wildcards because they tried to jump from the Alliance to the WWF on Raw but got fired as a result. Billy dumps Chavo as Morrus is eliminated as well. Tazz dumps Dreamer and Crash as Storm low bridges Spike out. Bradshaw’s Clothesline kills Richards and he’s gone.

Tazz stops to run his mouth to Heyman and gets dumped by Billy. Test and I think Kidman put Albert out. We’re down to Bradshaw, Kidman, Gunn, Test and Storm. Sorry if I missed a bunch of eliminations but a lot of them weren’t shown. The fallaway slam puts Kidman out and we’re down to four. Bradshaw kicks Storm down and might have hurt his ankle. Things slow way down as Billy and Bradshaw hang on for dear life. Storm and Test team up to put Bradshaw out but Test dumps Storm as well. A big boot eliminates Gunn and Test wins immunity.

Rating: C-. Not bad here but at the end of the day, it’s a battle royal so what are you expecting to get here? Test would fall through the floor in the next year with no one caring about him at all. This was a pretty big batch of jobbers in there though and that doesn’t really make for an interesting match. Then again, neither do most battle royals.

Sacrifice video by Creed.

Booker is worried about Austin jumping. Shane says it’s ok and stick with it.

Women’s Title: Trish Stratus vs. Ivory vs. Lita vs. Mighty Molly vs. Jacqueline vs. Jazz

Chyna relinquished the title earlier in the year without being pinned and then disappeared so this is the best we’ve got to pick from for the new champion. This is Jazz’s debut and NO ONE CARES. Why does no one care? Because Jazz meant nothing in ECW and was a face there but is a heel here. Jazz and Lita start things off with Jazz pounding away. Off to Jackie vs. Molly off some blind tags and somehow even fewer people care about Jackie.

Jackie dropkicks Molly down and it’s off to Ivory who gets caught in a sunset flip for two. This is one fall to a finish. Ivory slingshots Jackie into the ropes and it’s off to Trish who is looking very good in those little pink shorts of hers. Lita gets knocked to the floor and the three Alliance chicks (Ivory, Jazz, Molly) triple team Trish for a bit. Jackie double crosses Lita on Poetry in Motion and everyone hits their finishers on everyone else. The Litasault gets two on Ivory as Jazz saves. Lita gets backdropped to the floor and it’s Ivory vs. Trish left. Stratusfaction gives Trish I believe her first title.

Rating: D. It was short, the match wasn’t any good, Trish looked great in the skin tight barely there pink shorts, Lita looked good as usual, and that’s all I’ve got here. As usual with situations like this, when the previous champion doesn’t lose the title, the new champion comes in at a big disadvantage.

Vince looks at Team WWF and gives them a pep talk, bringing up names like Dr. Jerry Graham, Peter Maivia, Gorilla Monsoon (pop) and Andre the Giant (BIG pop). He understands he might be looking at a group of losers, and if that happens no one will ever forgive them. After listening to that speech, I want to go fight three WWF guys and one guy each from ECW and WCW!

We recap the main event which has been summed up pretty well already. Vince was replaced by Big Show and Rock and Jericho are having major issues. Rock is WCW champion and Austin is WWF Champion. This really does feel like a huge match. The video is set to Control by Puddle of Mudd which is a good song.

Basically Vince said that he was tired of all of the InVasion (I think a lot of us were at this point) and offered one winner take all match with the losing organization going out of business. Angle joined the Alliance after the announcement but Vince says Austin is coming back to the WWF, giving the Alliance reason to be concerned. Austin stunned Angle on TV recently to further that idea.

Team WWF vs. Team Alliance

The Rock, Chris Jericho, Big Show, Undertaker, Kane

Steve Austin, Kurt Angle, Booker T, Rob Van Dam, Shane McMahon

Everyone gets individual entrances so it takes forever to get to the start of the match. As those are going on, a few things to notice here: Team Alliance has one of the biggest WWF superstars ever, a guy that at this point had only wrestled in the WWF, a WCW guy, an ECW guy, and the then heir to the WWF throne.

Also, as goes the stereotype for the WWF, most of their guys are big and strong instead of the more athletic styles of the Alliance team. One other thing: JR keeps up one of the annoying inaccuracies in wrestling by saying that Taker won the world title in his WWF debut. It was a year later, which you should know if you’ve been reading my reviews like good minions.

Rock and Austin start fighting before the bell and you know the early advantage doesn’t mean a thing in this one. Austin hits the Thesz Press and the middle rope elbow for a very early two. Rock comes back with a middle finger elbow of his own and dares Shane to get in. Off to Booker who gets clotheslined down for two as Shane makes the save. Expect to hear that line for awhile. Off to Jericho as Heyman blames Vince for the end of ECW.

Van Dam and Jericho have a nice fast paced sequence with Jericho hitting a spinwheel kick for no cover. Jericho chops away but misses a dropkick, allowing Rob to hit the cartwheel into a moonsault for two. For reasons likely related to high levels of drug use, Van Dam tries a standing rana on Jericho, only to be countered into the Walls. Shane makes the third save of the match already and it’s off to Angle vs. Kane.

Angle gets thrown around but eventually slips behind Kane and hits a German Suplex for two. Kane comes back with a side slam and the top rope clothesline for two of his own as Shane saves again. Off to the Dead Man who pounds away but misses a charge into the corner, allowing Booker to get the tag. Taker immediately drops Booker and hits a legdrop, but Shane breaks up his fifth near fall of the match.

There’s Old School to Booker followed by that lifting wristlock which always looks painful. Off to a short armed scissors followed by a clothesline for two, resulting in ANOTHER save from Shane. Austin comes in to pound on Taker (and to cause Heyman to say WHAT after everything JR says) but he gets caught in Old School. Say it with me: Shane makes the save. Taker gets caught in the wrong corner and quintuple teamed.

Angle is in next and tries to slug it out with the Deadman for some reason. Taker escapes a German and DDTs Angle down. There’s the tag to Big Show and JR almost immediately bashes him, saying Show can make a huge difference, or he can make some huge mistakes. Show throws around RVD and Angle before clearing off the entire Alliance corner. Angle gets underneath Show and there’s the Slam followed by an Ax kick from Booker (and a Spinarooni) and a Five Star and a top rope elbow from Shane for the first elimination.

Shane dances around in celebration before turning around to meet The Rock who beats the living tar out of Shane with right hands in the corner. Off to Kane for a chokeslam, then a tombstone from Undertaker and a Lionsault from Jericho to tie it up. That’s the best way to go as Show and Shane were the weak links on both teams. Angle vs. Jericho now with Jericho hitting the forearm to start. A double underhook backbreaker puts Angle down but Austin saves.

Angle uses an amateur takedown and brings in Booker to slam Chris a few times. RVD gets a tag but one of his shoulders in the corner is countered into a sunset flip for two. Off to Kane who catches a punch from RVD. Van Dam’s comeback? Kick the guy in the head. Why make things too complicated? Kane pulls Booker in and kicks him in the face too but the numbers game allows Van Dam to take Kane down and hit the Five Star. Rob takes too long to cover though and gets caught in a chokeslam, but Booker kicks Kane down. Everything breaks down and Rob kicks Kane from the top for the pin to make it 4-3.

Taker pounds on Van Dam in the corner while everyone else is fighting on the floor. Austin and Angle get in as well and Taker has to fight all four guys at once. He gets them all in a corner and keeps charging at all of them with clotheslines in a cool sequence. Snake Eyes and a big boot take Angle down and there’s a Last Ride for him as well. Booker comes in with a chair but Taker boots him down, leaving himself open to a Stunner from Austin and the pin by Angle. That leaves us with Austin/Angle/Booker/RVD vs. Rock/Jericho.

Booker stomps on Rock but Rocky comes back with right hands. A side kick takes Rock right back down but Rock does the same with a DDT for two. Booker charges into a Samoan Drop for two as Austin makes the save. Rock whips Booker into Angle and grabs a rollup to eliminate Mr. T, making it 3-2.

Rob is in next but as he goes up, Rock kind of powerbombs him off the top for two. Jericho gets the tag and hits a running neckbreaker for two before chopping away in the corner. Van Dam avoids the Lionsault and kicks Chris’ head off, followed by the split legged moonsault for no cover. Jericho pops up and hits a Breakdown (Skull Crushing Finale) out of nowhere for the pin and the elimination to tie it up at two each.

Austin slingshots Rock into the post on the floor while Angle and Jericho fight in the ring. Angle picks Jericho’s ankle and stomps away on him as Heyman thinks the Alliance can find a place for the Rock. Back to Austin to pound away on Chris and hit a superplex for two. Austin hits a kind of northern lights/belly to belly suplex for two and here’s Angle again. Jericho puts Kurt in the ankle lock but Kurt quickly escapes and hits a clothesline to take over.

It’s back to Austin for a suplex and an elbow to the face. Angle comes in and stomps away before it’s back to Austin who stomps away as well. We hit one of the few chinlocks in this match as Jericho is in trouble. Jericho fights up and it’s a double tag to bring in Rock vs. Angle with the Great One quickly hooking a Sharpshooter on Kurt for an even faster tap. Heyman LOSES IT in a great moment.

Off to Austin vs. Jericho with Chris trying the Walls but Austin rakes the eyes to escape. Austin can’t put Jericho in the Boston crab either but he gets the knees up to block the Lionsault. Steve loads up a superplex but gets shoved down, followed by a missile dropkick for Jericho for two. Austin counters a rollup out of nowhere for the pin and the elimination to get us down to Rock vs. Austin. Did you expect it to be anything else?

Rock hits a bad spinebuster but Jericho hits a Breakdown on Rock to take him down in a double cross. It’s not joining the Alliance, but rather just personal hatred. That gets two for Austin and Taker comes out to stalk Jericho to the back. Austin pounds away before launching Rock over the top and out to the floor. They fight on the floor with Austin being laid on the table and slapped in the chest over and over.

Austin comes back but gets sent over the announce table and punched in the face by Rock. Back in Rock chops away but gets caught in the whip spinebuster from Austin. Austin puts on a bad Sharpshooter and there’s your Montreal reference. Rock finally makes the rope so Austin grabs the WWF Title. Rock ducks the swing and puts Austin the Sharpshooter but he’s afraid to let go of the belt for some reason. I guess realizing he has a job no matter what, he grabs the rope instead.

Back up and Austin’s Stunner is countered into a Stunner from Rock. Why that puts Rock down after Rock had been in control for awhile is beyond me but whatever. Rock covers but here’s Nick Patrick to pull Hebner out. A Rock Bottom to Patrick is broken up and Austin Rock Bottoms Rock for two. Austin drills Patrick and pulls Hebner back in, only to be sent into him again as Rock counters the Stunner. There’s the Stunner to Rock but there’s no referee. Angle runs in and nails Austin with the title, letting Rock hit the Rock Bottom for the pin and the death of the Alliance. JR to Heyman: “You’re out of work! AGAIN!”

Rating: A. This felt like a main event and was very entertaining too. It runs forty five minutes bell to bell and feels like about half of that. At the end of the day, it was pretty clear what was going to happen but that doesn’t make it a bad match. Rock vs. Austin was pretty much done for a long time after this match, which is the right call as they had run it a lot this year. Great stuff here though.

Everyone celebrates and Vince comes out for the big dramatic pose, because this whole storyline was all about Vince and his kids remember.

Overall Rating: B+. Like I said, as goes the main event, so goes the show. The rest of the show isn’t bad but the main event is over an hour counting buildup video and entrances and all that jazz. The rest of the show isn’t bad at all with a good cage match and nothing truly bad that didn’t involve Trish looking great, so I can’t complain much here. Also, it gets rid of the Alliance which makes things better already.

As for the InVasion, I’ve gone on at great length about it already, but in short form here: it was the biggest waste of time, money, and potential that there ever could be in wrestling. This was the biggest storyline you could possibly ask for and they BLEW IT. There are multiple options you could go with here. One idea is have no mention on TV of the WWF buying WCW and just keep it going with WWF guys in charge behind the scenes. Think a network might have been interested with it being under the direction of the biggest wrestling company ever?

Another option: have the Alliance win. At the end of the day any money they’ve got goes into the WWF’s pocket as they own EVERYTHING, so what difference does it make? Granted that was never going to happen with Vince’s ego, but why let money get in the way of Vince feeling good about himself? The InVasion could have been so much more but it wound up running about five months with the WWF dominating the whole way through. Such a shame and a loss for wrestling fans who had waited for so many years for a chance to have this happen.

Ratings Comparison

Christian vs. Al Snow

Original: C+

Redo: C-

William Regal vs. Tajiri

Original: C

Redo: N/A

Edge vs. Test

Original: B-

Redo: C+

Dudley Boys vs. Hardy Boys

Original: B+

Redo: B-

Battle Royal

Original: N/A

Redo: C-

Trish Stratus vs. Lita vs. Jacqueline vs. Ivory vs. Mighty Molly vs. Jazz

Original: D+

Redo: D

Team WWF vs. Team Alliance

Original: B

Redo: A

Overall Rating

Original: C+

Redo: B+

Like I said, as the main event goes, so goes the show. That’s apparently the case here as I liked both better the second time around.

Here’s the original review if you’re interested:

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Collision – November 8, 2025: The Really Big Preview

Collision
Date: November 8, 2025
Location: Bayou Music Center, Houston, Texas
Commentators: Tony Schiavone, Nigel McGuinness

It’s the last show before Blood & Guts and as luck would have it, we’ll be getting to see what happens with the two advantage series. That should be enough to carry most of the show, but other than that, we’re likely in for some build towards Full Gear, which is coming up as well. Let’s get to it.

Here is Dynamite if you need a recap.

Opening sequence.

We run down the card.

FTR vs. Bang Bang Gang

Stokely Hathaway is here with FTR. Gunn starts with the Guns Up pose to Harwood before taking Wheeler down in an armbar. That’s broken up and it’s off to Harwood vs. Robinson as things slow down a bit. Robinson hammers away in the corner but is smart enough to catch Wheeler with a spinning high crossbody.

Harwood is taken out again but Wheeler is back in with a chop block to take Robinson down. Robinson fights out of trouble and gets two off a sunset flip, followed by a double DDT. Gunn gets the tag and cleans house, including busting out the old Quick Draw. Wheeler low bridges Gunn to the floor though and we take a break.

We come back with Robinson coming in to clean house, including a leg lariat to Harwood. A slingshot dive drops Wheeler but Harwood rolls through a high crossbody and grabs the tights for two. Cue Bandido and Gravity to go after Hathaway, though they stop to superkick Wheeler. The Fameasser of the middle rope staggers Harwood and the forward DDT gives Robinson the pin at 14:09.

Rating: B. They certainly kept the energy up here and it made for a hot opener. At the very least, I rather like seeing the Gang get a nice win, as they’ve been doing nothing for such a long time now. Hopefully this is a sign that they’re getting back on their feet, as it’s not like they had much further to fall.

Kyle Fletcher is ready to beat up Ace Austin tonight and Mark Briscoe at Full Gear. Kazuchika Okada comes in to say they’ll win and be Proto-Kada. Fletcher likes it…I think?

TNT Title: Kyle Fletcher vs. Ace Austin

Fletcher is defending. They fight over wrist control to start with Fletcher taking him down and striking a double biceps pose. Back up and Austin knocks him outside for an early breather so things can reset a bit. A big boot puts Austin down but he’s right back with la majistral for two. Fletcher backbreakers him into a swinging full nelson slam for two and we take a break.

We come back with Austin striking away, setting up a Russian legsweep. Fletcher bails out to the floor, where he counters a kick to the chest into a powerbomb onto the apron. Back in and the sitout Last Ride gets two on Austin, who is right back with some corner clotheslines.

A super hurricanrana plants Fletcher though and a faceplant gives Austin two. The Fold misses though and Fletcher lawn darts him into the corner. Austin fights back up but another Fold attempt is countered into a brainbuster for two. They trade kicks to the head until Fletcher takes him up top for the brainbuster onto the turnbuckle to retain at 14:38.

Rating: B. Good stuff here, as Austin is someone who has proven himself well in AEW thus far and Fletcher is rather dependable to put it mildly. This is the match designed to have Austin become a big deal and that’s a good way for him to go. Then again, that’s how a lot of people are treated in AEW and the results have been a mixed bag of success.

We look at Megan Bayne and Marina Shafir joining forces.

Kris Statlander thinks Mercedes Mone has a lot of things that she’ll never have, but Statlander has the focus. Statlander will follow her into Blood & Guts and then on to Full Gear to beat her once and for all.

The Don Callis Family wants the Death Riders to destroy Mark Briscoe and offers them favors for a job well done. Jon Moxley isn’t interested and a lot of staring ensues.

Anna Jay/Tay Melo vs. Hyan/Maya World

Melo takes Hyan into the corner to take over and Jay comes in to hammer away. World makes a save but gets sent outside, meaning it’s a Gory Bomb into a knee to the face to finish Hyan at 1:48. Total dominance.

Athena is annoyed at getting pinned by Harley Cameron, who is getting a Ring Of Honor Women’s Title match later this month. Now it’s time for pain in Blood & Guts and then retaining the title.

Women’s Blood & Guts Advantage Series: Skye Blue vs. Jamie Hayter

Blue’s team is up 1-0 and a win gives them the advantage. They trade some early rollups and go outside, with Hayter giving chance but getting sent into the steps. Back in and Hayter’s spinebuster lets her hammer away but she misses a dropkick. Blue gets two off a basement superkick and we take a break.

We come back with Hayter hitting a middle rope dropkick for two, followed by a big boot for the same. They trade forearms and then headbutts, with Hayter falling on top for two. Blue powerbombs her out of the corner for the same but Code Blue is countered. Hayterade gives Hayter the pin at 10:06.

Rating: B-. They weren’t exactly hiding the fact that Hayter was going to win here as otherwise there wouldn’t have been another match. Hayter continues to rise up the rankings and hopefully she’s able to get back into the title picture sooner than later. Blue is someone who can take losses without losing much and it won’t hurt her, so this was fine.

Post match the Triangle Of Madness run in for the beatdown but Harley Cameron and Willow Nightingale make the save.

Women’s Blood & Guts Advantage Series: Thekla vs. Harley Cameron

For the advantage. It’s a brawl to start with the fans entirely behind Cameron in quite the reaction. They go outside with Cameron hitting a Russian legsweep before heading back inside. Thekla pulls her out of the corner for a face first crash onto the buckle, followed by a suplex on the floor. Thekla adds another one and we take a break with Cameron in trouble.

We come back with Cameron getting caught with the upside down choke in the ropes for two. Back up and a running faceplant drops Thekla and Cameron gets to stomp away in the corner. A sling blade gives Cameron two and she headbutts Thekla into the Tree Of Woe for a running dropkicks. That doesn’t get her very far though as Thekla hits a spear for the pin and advantage at 12:04.

Rating: C+. Cameron is getting better in the ring but what matters the most is that the fans love her. You can’t plan that kind of thing and it made for a great step forward for her career. She’s coming up on the biggest singles match of her career, which makes the loss here a bit of a bad idea, but it’s not like Cameron is likely to beat Athena anyway.

Jet Speed aren’t done with FTR and they’re ready to be in the Casino Gauntlet match for the North American Title.

Anthony Bowens insists that the Acclaimed is done. He and Max Caster will both be at the Tailgate Brawl but Tony Khan insists that there is more interest in them working together. Therefore, that’s what will happen at the Tailgate Brawl. Bickering ensues.

Full Gear rundown, oddly with the camera on commentary instead of the graphics.

Video on Hangman Page vs. Samoa Joe, setting up Page vs. Powerhouse Hobbs at Blood & Guts.

Ric Flair and Ricky Steamboat will both be at Blood & Guts.

Men’s Blood & Guts Advantage Series: Jon Moxley vs. Roderick Strong

For the advantage. Moxley’s early front facelock is countered into an armbar but he pulls that into a Kimura. That’s broken up so Strong shoves him out to the floor, where Moxley gets to flip off the crowd. Back in and Moxley takes over on the arm again, with Strong being knocked outside for a change. Moxley follows him outside but gets whipped into the steps. Strong tries a suplex but gets dropped onto the steps as we take a break.

We come back with Moxley tying up the legs with an Indian deathlock, sending Strong over to the ropes. A butterfly superplex drops Strong for two but he’s right back with a tiger driver for the same. Moxley tries the bulldog choke, which is escaped just as fast for the slugout. Marina Shafir trips Strong so here is Kyle O’Reilly, who is cut off by Wheeler Yuta.

That earns him an ejection so here is Pac to kick Strong in the face. That’s only good for two so Moxley gets a cross armbreaker, which is quickly escaped. Pac loads up a table at ringside but Strong puts an invading Daniel Garcia through it instead. A full nelson slam sends Moxley onto the steps and….someone (it’s Darby Allin) grabs his leg to make sure Strong wins by countout at 18:10.

Rating: B-. It was a nice brawl and Moxley’s fall continues, but I could go a long, long, long time without seeing the Death Riders doing anything again. It feels like the same “here comes all of them one after another as Moxley does submissions” that we’ve seen forever. In theory the team is mostly done after Blood & Guts, but that feels like it has been the case for a long time now.

Overall Rating: B-. This started really well and then slowed down a good bit. The problem is you’re only going to get so much out of control series for matches that are going to wind up with everyone staring at each other for a big showdown. Full Gear didn’t get a ton of attention here, but odds are that will have a lot of fallout from Dynamite. This was another Collision that would have been better at just an hour, which is so often the case around here.

Results
Bang Bang Gang b. FTR – Forward DDT to Harwood
Kyle Fletcher b. Ace Austin – Brainbuster onto the turnbuckle
Anna Jay/Tay Melo b. Hyan/Maya World – Gory Bomb into a knee to the face to Hyan
Jamie Hayter b. Skye Blue – Hayterade
Thekla b. Harley Cameron – Spear
Roderick Strong b. Jon Moxley via countout

 

 

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Smackdown – November 7, 2025: We Need A Match

Smackdown
Date: November 7, 2025
Location: Bon Secours Wellness Center, Greenville, South Carolina
Commentators: Michael Cole, Corey Graves

We’re done with Saturday Night’s Main Event and Cody Rhodes seems to be done with Drew McIntyre. After defending the title again, Rhodes is going to need a new challenger and with Survivor Series in about three weeks, there is a good chance we find out something about that tonight. Let’s get to it.

Here is Saturday Night’s Main Event if you need a recap.

We open with a recap of Rhodes retaining the title at Saturday Night’s Main Event.

Here is Rhodes, who talks about ending things against McIntyre once and for all. He wants someone new to come after the title and is willing to sit in the crowd and find out who it is. Cue Aleister Black and Zelina to interrupt, with Black saying there is a WWE Championship sized chip on his shoulder. Vega gets in Rhodes’ face but Nick Aldis comes out to make the match for tonight.

Ilja Dragunov runs into Tama Tonga in the back.

US Title: Ilja Dragunov vs. ???

Dragunov is defending in another open challenge, with DIY answering. Tommaso Ciampa calls out Dragunov for calling him a jackass last week, earning a JACKASS chant. Dragunov is willing to defend…against Johnny Gargano. Ciampa isn’t happy but goes with it and we’re ready to go. Gargano knocks him into the corner to start but gets taken down in some rolling German suplexes. Another suplex drops Gargano again and we take a break.

We come back with Gargano enziguring him down so they can trade forearms. The Constantine Special drops Gargano again and Dragunov hits a running boot in the corner. Gargano is right back with a superkick into a poisonrana, with Dragunov coming up with a busted nose.

They go to the corner with Dragunov knocking him off, setting up a middle rope backsplash. A belly to back slam plants Gargano but Candice LeRae pulls Dragunov outside. One Final Beat gives Gargano two but Dragunov catches him with an apron superplex. The H Bomb retains the title at 10:51.

Rating: B-. This was what you would expect from these two as they were doing their big time moves until Gargano lost. Dragunov vs. Ciampa is the big teased match and that could be quite the showdown. They have to do stuff like this to get there though and at least the match was good enough.

Sami Zayn comes in to see Nick Aldis and asks him to be ringside for Rey Fenix’s match tonight. Aldis has to turn him down again and that’s not a request. Zayn agrees, but he won’t do this much longer. R-Truth comes in and wants to be in the Last Time Is Now tournament. He puts his balls in Aldis’ hands (literally) but Aldis says he’s already in the field. This makes R-Truth mad and he leaves. Aldis: “I don’t know what just happened here.”

We look at Jade Cargill winning the Women’s Title at Saturday Night’s Main Event.

Johnny Gargano apologized to Tommaso Ciampa for losing but Fraxiom comes in to mock them both.

Here is Jade Cargill for a chat. Cargill says that will happen to anyone who comes after her and she is that b****. And that’s it, though she runs into Charlotte and Alexa Bliss on the way to the ring as she leaves. Staring ensues.

Chelsea Green is ready to win the Women’s US Title back but Michin and B-Fab come in to mock her. Green says she’ll be the best champion on Smackdown but Jade Cargill comes in to scare her. B-Fab isn’t pleased and a match is made for next week.

Charlotte vs. Nia Jax

Alexa Bliss is here with Charlotte. They trade slaps to start until Charlotte hits a Thesz press to hammer away. After not quite sticking the landing on a nip up (she laughed about it), Charlotte is sent hard into the corner as we take a break. We come back with Charlotte booting her in the face and hitting a high crossbody.

A flipping clothesline drops Jax (and we go black screen due to some wardrobe issues), followed by a moonsault to give Charlotte two. Jax grabs a sitout powerbomb for two more but the Annihilator misses. Charlotte knees her for two and a tornado DDT gets the same. Cue NXT’s Lash Legend to jump Bliss and choke her on the floor, allowing Jax to splash Charlotte in the corner. The Annihilator finishes for Jax at 10:25.

Rating: C+. Charlotte is one of the few women who can hang with Jax size wise and it made for a better match. You don’t see Jax have something of a hoss fight very often and I was digging it here. Charlotte’s evolution is rather shocking as I never imagined it going this well and now we have a tag match set.

Legend and Jax leave together. I can absolutely go for Legend being on Smackdown full time.

We recap the Last Time Is Now tournament.

Nick Aldis draws two first round matches:

Miz vs. Jey Uso
LA Knight vs. ???

Aldis won’t say Knight’s opponent. That makes me think a returning Gunther or someone who will appear when you say his name.

Nia Jax says she and Lash Legend are indeed friends. Legend introduces herself and says they’re going to the top.

Women’s United States Title: Giulia vs. Chelsea Green

Green, with Alba Fyre, is challenging and Kiana James is here with Giulia. A headbutt rocks Green to start and the knee gets two. Giulia chokes on the ropes and James gets in a cheap shot, earning a superkick from Fyre. Giulia goes after Fyre…and gets rolled up with feet on the ropes to give Green the title back at 1:35. It’s not like Giulia was doing anything with the title anyway so go with the one on a roll at the moment.

Solo Sikoa wants more from the MFT’s, starting with Talla Tonga needing to teach a lesson. The team leaves and the Wyatt Sicks pop up behind them.

Charlotte checks on Alexa Bliss in the trainer’s room…but Asuka pops in to mist Charlotte in the eyes. Well that’s mean.

Talla Tonga vs. Rey Fenix

The MFT’s are here with Tonga. Actually never mind as the Motor City Machine Guns and Shinsuke Nakamura come out to brawl with them to the back. That leaves Fenix to hit a dive and the bell rings with Tonga easily shoving him down. A running big boot sends Fenix into the barricade and we take a break.

We come back with Fenix’s springboard being knocked out of the air and some elbows in the corner keeping him in trouble. Tonga misses a charge though and gets kicked in the face, only to come back with a heck of an uppercut. Fenix kicks him in the head a few times, including a rope walk kick to the face. A springboard high crossbody gives Fenix two but a hurricanrana is countered into a powerbomb. The chokeslam finishes Fenix off at 9:11.

Rating: B-. There was a good story here with the giant vs. the smaller guy and it worked well. The problem is that Tonga is only so good in the ring and Fenix has lost time after time to the point where it doesn’t mean as much. The MFT’s seem like they’re ready to do a bunch of stuff but none of it has really happened yet. That’s going to need to change, which has been the case for a long time.

Post match Tonga goes after Fenix again but Sami Zayn runs in with a chair for the save.

Here’s what’s coming next week.

The Miz says last week’s attack on Carmelo Hayes wasn’t payback before moving on to the Last Time Is Now tournament. He’s ready to win the tournament and beat John Cena again, just like he did in the main event of Wrestlemania.

Cody Rhodes vs. Aleister Black

Non-title and Zelina is here with Black. They trade armdrags to start fast until Rhodes jumps over him in the corner. The drop down uppercut is countered into a quickly broken cross armbreaker but Black kicks him out to the floor. We take a break and come back with Rhodes getting two off the snap powerslam before Black’s kick to the head gets the same. Rhodes comes back with a running forearm and another powerslam, followed by the Disaster Kick for two.

Cross Rhodes is countered and another kick drops Rhodes, who is back with a Cody Cutter for two more. Another Cross Rhodes attempt is countered and they kick each other down…and here is Drew McIntyre to Claymore the referee. Rhodes goes after McIntyre so Black jumps Rhodes, with Damian Priest coming in to go after the villains. Zelina’s interference doesn’t really work but Black gets in a shot to Priest’s eye. The match is a no contest at around 10:00.

Rating: B-. They got in some good stuff while they had the chance, which granted was only so long. The ending is a bit interesting as it opens up some doors, though Rhodes needs a new top challenger. While McIntyre is a big deal, he was only so much of a threat to take the title. I’m not sure Black is going to be anything more than a challenger of the month, but at least it’s something different.

Post match Nick Aldis suspends McIntyre to end the show.

Overall Rating: C+. The action here was fine, but this was another show that didn’t feel very exciting. The matches were ok enough and nothing was terrible, but there is nothing on here that makes me want to keep watching. Rather than rushing towards something, it comes off more like a leisurely jog with little in the way of drama. Nothing much to this one, which is a shame as the wrestling was pretty decent.

Results
Ilja Dragunov b. Johnny Gargano – H Bomb
Nia Jax b. Charlotte – Annihilator
Chelsea Green b. Giulia – Rollup with feet on the ropes
Cody Rhodes vs. Aleister Black went to a no contest

 

 

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Impact Wrestling – November 6, 2025 (Open Fight Night): Out Of Time

Impact Wrestling
Date: November 6, 2025
Commentators: Tom Hannifan, Matthew Rehwoldt

I’m not sure what to think of this show these days, as it’s basically just an assortment of random stuff from week to week. This week is described as Open Fight Night, meaning you can get a match with anyone you want. That could mean a lot of things, but at the end of the day, we still haven’t had a new TV taping since the pay per view so this isn’t likely to be much. Let’s get to it.

Santino Marella says we’re still dealing with the effects of Bound For Glory but we’re back live next week. Tonight though is Open Fight Night so it’s time for some challenges.

Brian Myers says that he and Eddie Edwards want the Tag Team Titles back so they’re starting against the Great Hands.

Opening sequence.

Northern Armory vs. Rascalz vs. Great Hands vs. The System

One fall to a finish with Tasha Steelz and Alisha Edwards at ringside. Icarus (with his taped up shoulder) and Wentz go to the mat to start and everything breaks down with the villains being sent outside. The Rascalz kick the System to the floor and hit the required dives as we take a break.

We come back with Icarus getting caught in a Dream Sequence to give Wentz two. Williams dropkicks Wentz for two but Myers comes in to drop Williams with a clothesline. Skyler is right back up with a knockdown into a chinlock before Hotch does the same. That’s broken up as well and it’s Edwards coming in to make the comeback. Everything breaks down and the Boston Knee Party hits Skyler to give Edwards the pin at 12:52.

Rating: B-. The action was good, but there was so much going on that it’s hard to have anyone really stand out. As usual, the issue with a match like this is that it doesn’t feel like the System won but rather they stole a fall when everyone else was busy. That’s what happens when you have this many people involved in a match and there isn’t much of a way around it with just one fall.

Jody Threat wants to fight Dani Luna.

The Elegance Brand is on a search for their Mr. Elegance. Ash is here as well, making me think this was taped a long time ago.

Dani Luna vs. Jody Threat

Threat wrestles her down to start and hammers away before they’re quickly on the floor. Luna avoids a backsplash and they get back inside, with Threat’s choke being broken up without much trouble. Threat misses a charge into the ropes and gets taken down with a German suplex.

We take a break and come back with Luna elbowing her in the head but Threat manages a clothesline. Luna is sent outside for a running flip dive off the apron, followed by a crossbody back inside. Luna’s comeback is quickly cut off with a rear naked choke, sending Luna bailing over to the ropes. A clothesline to the back of the head drops Threat but she’s able to counter the Lunar Landing. Luna is able to grab a bottom rope German superplex to bring Threat back in, setting up the Lunar Landing for the pin at 14:17.

Rating: B-. They had a hard hitting fight here, which helps make up for the lack of interest in seeing these two fight anymore. Their team was only so good in the first place and it feels like they’ve been feuding for even longer than they were together. Either way, the match worked well enough and that’s good for a one off match on a special like this.

Cedric Alexander gets smart by choosing to face Mike Santana.

We’re going to get a documentary on Dana Brooke, including a look at her retirement.

Nic Nemeth and Mike Santana were in El Paso to hype up Final Resolution.

Speaking of El Paso, here’s a match from the tapings in the city earlier this year.

Colons vs. Hardys

Street fight and the Hardys Tag Team Titles aren’t on the line. Jeff and Eddie start things off with Jeff working on the arm. Matt comes in to ram the bad arm into his shoulder, followed by Poetry In Motion. It’s time for a table but the Colons fight back and kick it out to the floor. The Hardys aren’t having that and beat up Orlando on the floor, followed by stereo rams into the buckles.

Matt beats on Eddie in the crowd before stereo low blows cut off the Twists Of Fate. The table is sent back inside but Jeff crotches Orlando on top. Matt hits Eddie low and there’s the Twist Of Fate. After fixing the table again, the Swanton puts Eddie through said table to give Matt the pin on Eddie at 11:21.

Rating: C+. This felt like a post show dark match to send the fans home happy with commentary added later. That’s not a bad thing to show either, as the Hardys are still one of the top acts in the company and the fans love them. It’s not a great match, but it’s a nice exclusive to add in here.

The Hardys celebrate with the fans.

We go to the May 24, 2012 Impact (Open Fight Night II).

TNA World Title: Bobby Roode vs. AJ Styles

Roode is defending and it’s a feeling out process to start with Roode getting in a cheap shot but getting caught with a quick dropkick. We’re clipped to Roode hitting a suplex and dropping a knee, followed by a chinlock. Styles fights out and hits a quick Phenomenal Forearm for a slightly delayed two.

Roode powers him into the corner but Styles is right back up with a missile dropkick. Roode’s spear gets two but the crossface doesn’t last long. Styles’ Muta Lock sends Roode over to the rope, allowing him to fisherman’s suplex Styles for two. Styles gets in a Pele kick but gets distracted by….something, allowing Roode to block the springboard 450. The fisherman’s suplex retains the title at 8:08 shown (of 21:20 overall). I won’t rate what we saw with this much missing, but what we got was the usual good stuff you would expect from these two.

We look at Kelani Jordan retaining the Knockouts Title on NXT, earning her a spot at Gold Rush in a triple threat, defending against Lei Ying Lee and Jordynne Grace.

We get a sitdown interview with Jordan, who is tired of doing things the right way and getting treated badly as a result. She’s already beaten a bunch of challengers and the results will be the same at Gold Rush. The turn has helped Jordan, but having her talk in long form stuff is not a great idea.

Ash By Elegance is in Edmonton, looking for Mr. Elegance, which appears to be involving watching pre-show tryout matches. No one impresses them.

Mike Santana vs. Cedric Alexander

Santana doesn’t have the belt here, which is explained as he’s leaving it in the back due to respect for Alexander. This is of course translated to “it was taped before he won the title”. They go into the corner to start until Alexander works on the arm. Santana reverses into some arm cranking of his own but it’s way too early to Spin The Block.

A springboard spinning crossbody sends Alexander outside, with a superkick dropping him again. Alexander is right back in with a springboard moonsault to send Santana outside for a change. We take a break and come back with Alexander grabbing a snap German suplex for two.

Santana fires off chops in the corner but charges into a Michinoku Driver for two more. Santana fights out of a chinlock and strikes away until Alexander grabs a fisherman’s buster for another near fall. The Rolling Buck Fifty fives Santana two of his own and they forearm it out from their knees. They trade rollups for two each until Spin The Block gives Santana the pin at 15:11.

Rating: B. This was how a show like this should have ended, as the World Champion gets a nice hard fought win. Santana should have a lot more going on in the near future, but at least he got in the ring for a match. Granted it would have been better if he was having a match after winning the title, but I’ll take what I can get here.

Overall Rating: B. Maybe it was just having fresh content but I’ll take this as a one off special. That being said, the best part about this show was the announcement that we’re FINALLY getting some post-Bound For Glory content next week. The fact that it’s the day before Turning Point doesn’t make things much better, but at least it’s something.

Results
The System b. Northern Armory, Rascalz and Great Hands – Boston Knee Party to Skyler
Dani Luna b. Jody Threat – Lunar Landing
Hardys b. Colons – Swanton through a table to Eddie
Mike Santana b. Cedric Alexander – Spin The Block

 

 

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Ring Of Honor – November 6, 2025: The Problem Is Still There

Ring Of Honor
Date: November 6, 2025
Location: Daily’s Place, Jacksonville, Florida
Commentators: Ian Riccaboni, Caprice Coleman

We’re about a month away from Final Battle and that means it’s time to start getting ready to get ready for the build. Maybe in three weeks or so. You never know what you might get on that show, though there is always the chance that they throw something out there earlier. Let’s get to it.

Here are last week’s results if you need a recap.

We open with a look back at the great Bandido vs. Mascara Dorada ROH World Title match from Collision with Bandido retaining the title.

Opening sequence.

We run down the card.

Six Man Tag Team Titles: Beef/Workhorsemen vs. Shane Taylor Promotions

The Promotions are defending. Henry and Bravo trade arm control to start and it’s off to Beef to hammer away. That doesn’t work for the Promotions, who clear the ring and pose on the apron. Taylor comes in for the forearms in the corner, followed by a running splash. Dean hits a Bronco Buster and a belly to back suplex/neckbreaker combination drops him again. Beef fights out without much trouble and brings Henry in to clean house. Anthony Ogogo offers a distraction on the floor though and Rush comes in with a belt shot to Beef’s head. The double stomp retains the title at 7:08.

Rating: C. It’s not a good sign when you need help to beat Beef and the Workhorsemen, but I’ll take a fairly nothing match like this over the titles sitting on the shelf for months. I’m not sure where that ending is leading, but I would hope that Beef and the Horsemen aren’t going to be going after the Tag Team Titles now. There has to be a better option for Final Battle. Right?

Post match the beatdown is on but SkyFlight runs in for the save.

Skyflight vs. Matt Menard/The Kingdom

Darius and Bennett get things going with Darius getting two off a rollup and armdragging him into an armbar. Dante comes in and gets tossed into a right hand but Taven is cut off with a double dropkick. It’s off to Menard as everything breaks down, leaving Menard to DDT Darius. A catapult into a kick to the face staggers Darius again and some corner clotheslines have Darius in trouble.

Taven neckbreakers Dante but misses a Lionsault, allowing Darius to grab an assisted tornado DDT for two. Sky comes in to clean house, including a Sky High (makes sense) for two on Taven. Bennett is back in with a Death Valley Driver into Just The Tip for two on Sky, who snaps off the TKO to pin Menard at 8:06.

Rating: C+. I like SkyFlight a bit more every time I see them and hopefully they get to be out there a bit more often. If nothing else, put them in the Six Man Tag Team Title scene. Or just give them the titles already. If nothing else, just getting a single win should put them in title contention.

We recap the Costco Guys vs. the Don Callis Family, with QT Marshall being dragged in to help the Guys at Full Gear.

Don Callis Family vs. The OXP/Orion

Hechicero shoves OXP in the face to start and then easily moves out of an armbar. A twist of the leg has OXP in more trouble and Hechicero pulls him out of the air again. Archer comes in to backdrop OXP onto Orion as Riccaboni recommends just walking out. A spinning facebuster plants OXP again and Hechicero grabs a surfboard. Archer gets a running start and faceplants OXP out of it, followed by a chokeslam. The spinning seated cobra clutch gives Hechicero the win at 4:05.

Rating: C. Total squash but it was fun enough while it lasted. There is something entertaining about seeing Archer throwing them around and Hechicero just tormenting them in various ways. That’s what a squash should be, especially without Callis himself being there to drag it down.

We look at Alex Windsor’s time with Yuka Sakazaki.

Alex Windsor/Yuka Sakazaki vs. Robyn Renegade/Taya Valkyrie

Sakazaki and Renegade start things off but it’s quickly off to Windsor to chop away at Valkyrie. A basement dropkick gives Windsor two and Sakazaki’s rollup gets the same. Renegade comes back in and hammers on Sakazaki, setting up Valkyrie’s running knees in the corner. Valkyrie works on the armbar but Sakazaki fights up and hits a missile dropkick.

Windsor comes back in with some corner clotheslines and a Blue Thunder Bomb for two on Renegade. A quick Eat Defeat gets two on Windsor and it’s Valkyrie gives Sakazaki a hard clothesline for two. Back up and Sakazaki grabs a quick sliding German suplex to drop Valkyrie, followed by the Magical Girl Splash for the pin at 8:28.

Rating: C+. This is a good example of a match that was technically fine but not exactly interesting. I’m assuming Windsor and Sakazaki will be a team going forward and might wind up facing the Women’s Tag Team Champions after the tournament in AEW. If nothing else, it’s nice to see some consistency. Just maybe get some slightly more interesting opponents?

We finally get it confirmed: the Women’s Pure Rules Title tournament final will be at Final Battle. That’s not exactly shocking, but dang if this is the best you can do, maybe don’t start it up so early?

Women’s Pure Rules Title Tournament First Round: Trish Adora vs. Deonna Purrazzo

Purrazzo hits her in the face for the official warning less than ten seconds in, only to be knocked right back down. Adora takes her down and hits a kick to the back, followed by a headscissors for two. Purrazzo’s quick Fujiwara armbar sends Adora to the ropes for the first time before she works on the arm as well. A big headbutt gives Purrazzo two and Adora’s bridging German suplex gets the same. Back up and Purrazzo’s Fujiwara armbar into the Venus de Milo makes Adora give up at 7:02.

Rating: C. Here’s the problem with this tournament (among many other things): the matches are just ok. We waited over a month for this thing to pick back up and we get a seven minute match that is….well, pretty much fine. There’s nothing to this that is worth getting excited over and now we’ll have a champion of this so called division in about a month. There is still no need for this title to exist and the tournament matches, which will likely ramp up soon, aren’t making it much better.

Aaron Solo/Angelika Risk vs. Death Riders

Yuta takes Solo down to start and works on the arm but Solo is back up with a middle rope armdrag. Risk comes in to yell a lot and slaps Shafir in the chest, earning a judo throw down. Shafir chokes her down and works on the arm while taking off her own shoes and socks for some reason. Risk gets up and it’s back to Solo, who double stomps Yuta. Everything breaks down and Risk gets caught in Mother’s Milk for the tap at 4:10 while Yuta knees Solo down.

Rating: C. Yeah this was the Death Riders’ weekly match as they get to squash someone else. Just in case you didn’t get to see them enough on Dynamite and Collision, here they are again. It doesn’t add anything here other than making the show go on longer, which isn’t a good feeling.

We look back at Bandido bringing his grandmother to see him for the first time. We’ve seen this package on a recent AEW show.

Satnam Singh vs. Gino Adonis

Adonis slugs away to start and has as much effect as you would imagine. Singh sends him flying and hits a lawn dart. The chokeslam finishes Adonis at 1:57.

We look at Swirl annoying Jay Lethal.

Willie Mack/Alex Zayne vs. Swirl

Mack and Johnson start things off with Mack’s headlock not getting him very far. Johnson slips out of a slam attempt but gets taken down by a running knee to the face. Zayne and Christian come in to exchange a miss of flips and kicks. Christian hammers away in the corner and sends him outside, where Johnson hits a cheating clothesline. Back in and Zayne has to fight out of the corner, allowing Mack to come back in and clean house.

It’s already back to Zayne for some running kicks in the corner, setting up the running kick/brainbuster combination…for two. Mack and Johnson go up top, where Zayne grabs a running hurricanrana to bring Johnson back down. Mack gives Christian a super Stunner for two but Mack is sent outside. That leaves Johnson to Death Valley Driver Zayne while Christian adds a top rope double stomp for the pin at 11:21.

Rating: B-. Easily the best match of the night thus far as the Swirl continues to be a pretty nice heel team. They could be a thing if they were given the chance, though that’s the problem with ROH: it takes so long for anyone to actually get a chance. Mack and Zayne were just the designated opponents here, but they did well enough as a team.

Komander vs. Lee Moriarty

Non-title Proving Ground match under Pure Rules, meaning that if Komander survives the ten minute time limit or wins, he gets a future title shot. They go to the mat to start with an exchange of grappling, with Moriarty getting the Border City Stretch. That means the first rope break for Komander, who gets tripped down to the mat.

That’s reversed into something like an Indian deathlock, sending Moriarty over to the ropes. A hurricanrana drops Moriarty again but he sends Komander into the buckle to cut him off. We reach the halfway point as Moriarty grabs a quickly broken chinlock. Moriarty switches to an armbar, with Komander using his second rope break.

Komander’s choke has Moriarty burning another rope break and a quick DDT gives Komander two. They knock each other down with two minutes to go and Moriarty misses a charge into the corner. A tornado DDT gives Komander two more and a springboard moonsault gets the same. They trade some rollup attempts until Moriarty gets a choke with thirty five seconds left. Komander flips out and ties up an arm and leg but time runs out at 10:00.

Rating: B-. They picked up here at the end, though it continues to make me wonder why Komander would be going for the win as just a tie is the same thing. In theory it’s because he’s a good guy, which fair enough, but it doesn’t make much in the way of drama at the end. Either way, nice match and you can pencil the rematch in for Final Battle.

Respect is shown to end the show.

Overall Rating: C. The main event helped a bit but this show has had the same underlying problem since it came back: the majority does not feel important. There might be some stories here or there, but far too much of it comes off as “this stuff doesn’t matter”. When you have months waiting to finish the first round of a tournament, most of the matches having no long term impact and almost everything involving the World Title taking place elsewhere, it makes this show feel pretty useless. As usual, decent wrestling up and down, but nothing that makes me want to watch week after week.

Results
Shane Taylor Promotions b. Beef/Workhorsemen – Double stomp to Beef
SkyFlight b. Kingdom/Matt Menard – TKO to Menard
Don Callis Family b. OXP/Orion – Spinning seated cobra clutch to OXP
Alex Windsor/Yuka Sakazaki b. Robyn Renegade/Taya Valkyrie – Magical Girl Splash to Valkyrie
Deonna Purrazzo b. Trish Adora – Venus de Milo
Death Riders b. Aaron Solo/Angelika Risk – Mother’s Milk to Risk
Satnam Singh b. Gino Adonis – Chokeslam
Swirl b. Willie Mack/Alex Zayne – Death Valley Driver/top rope double stomp combination to Zayne
Komander vs. Lee Moriarty went to a time limit draw

 

 

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Survivor Series Count-Up – 2000 (2019 Redo): He Did It For You

Survivor Series 2000
Date: November 19, 2000
Location: Ice Palace, Tampa, Florida
Attendance: 18,602
Commentators: Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler

It’s old school time and as luck would have it, we’re going with something from one of the best eras the company has ever had. Steve Austin is back from his neck surgery and going after the mastermind behind his attack with another match against HHH. At the same time, we have the Rock vs. Rikishi, who famously did it for da Rock. Let’s get to it.

The opening video looks at HHH being the mastermind, which was the best thing they could have done after the big question mark of picking Rikishi. See, back then they saw when something wasn’t working and FIXED THEIR MISTAKE. I know that’s a foreign concept these days but it really did happen back in the day.

T&A/Trish Stratus vs. Steve Blackman/Crash Holly/Molly Holly

This is before Trish was a wrestler, Molly is still the wholesome Holly cousin and Blackman is Hardcore Champion. Blackman strikes away at Albert to start as JR actually recaps the story for this one, because this match actually has a backstory: the APA went on vacation and left Crash in charge of the office so T&A took over.

See how easy it can be to give what would be an otherwise ice cold match a backstory? And how weird it is for the faces to be in the bottom right hand corner of the ring? How did WWE even manage to have a designated face and heel corner in modern times? Crash’s high crossbody is pulled out of the air so Blackman dropkicks him in the back for a save. Trish comes in but kicks Albert low by mistake, allowing Crash to bring Molly in.

The chase gives us a double tag to Crash and Test with a hurricanrana giving Crash two. Test’s pumphandle slam is broken up as Crash rams him into Albert and it’s off to Molly to beat up Trish. Test pulls Molly down by the hair but she is fine enough to suplex Trish with ease. Crash has to save Molly from a gorilla press but Trish grabs the middle rope bulldog for two. Back up and Molly hits a middle rope sunset flip to put Trish away at 5:03 with Lawler losing his mind as she nearly falls out of her top.

Rating: C-. Today this would have been a Kickoff Show match but that doesn’t mean it was bad. Instead what we had was a match that didn’t overstay its welcome and had a fast enough pace that it still worked. Molly was the best choice for the pin and it’s not like Trish getting pinned is going to hurt her. The more I watch Molly the more impressed I am with her as she can do so many different things. Here she’s almost the All American girl and she would be doing her chaste stuff just over a year later before becoming kind of a hybrid. That takes talent, which she certainly has.

Kurt Angle comes up to Edge and Christian in the back but they have their own match tonight and can’t help Angle against Undertaker. Oh and Christian ate some bad chili and came down with mono. Angle: “You guys with your crazy antics.” He just wanted them to go out and celebrate, as long as he can find non-alcoholic beer.

Earlier today, Low Down and Tiger Ali Singh weren’t on the security entry list. This really shouldn’t come as a surprise.

Radicalz vs. Billy Gunn/Chyna/K-Kwik/Road Dogg

Survivor Series match and it’s so bizarre to see R-Truth here nineteen years ago in a different enough character. Gunn and Chyna may have a bit of romance going on but it isn’t clear. Terri is here with the Radicalz, Malenko is Light Heavyweight Champion and Eddie is Intercontinental Champion. Gunn hammers on Saturn to start and it’s Chyna coming in for a double suplex.

A powerslam gives Chyna two but the handspring elbow is countered into a waistlock. You don’t do that to Chyna, who kicks Saturn low, knocks Eddie off the apron and hits a DDT on Saturn. Everything breaks down and Eddie hits Chyna with the Intercontinental Title for the pin at 2:33.

That takes away a lot of the fans’ interest in the match, even as Dogg gets beaten up for a change. Eddie starts in on the knee so it’s time to talk about the World Title match instead of what’s going on here. Dogg catches Eddie on top with a superplex, allowing the tag off to Gunn. The tilt-a-whirl slam and sleeper drop get rid of Eddie at 6:01 to even things up as WWE keeps trying to make the Gunn singles push a thing.

Malenko and Kwik come in with the latter flipping around but getting driven into the corner for a tag to Benoit. A headscissors takes Benoit down but it’s a heck of a bridging German suplex to get rid of Kwik at 7:19. Dogg comes in and gets beaten up in the corner as well as Lawler tries to figure out why JR is talking about an accordion. Malenko gets two off a suplex but Dogg hits Saturn in the head to get a breather.

Saturn is right back with the northern lights suplex to get rid of Dogg, leaving us with Saturn/Benoit/Malenko vs. Gunn. The Radicalz waste no time in beating Gunn down in the corner and a cheap shot from Saturn makes it even worse. Saturn misses a superkick on the floor and hits Benoit by mistake (or he got close at least with a camera cut making the save), leaving Malenko to take the Fameasser for the pin at 10:58.

The Jackhammer gets two on Saturn but Benoit slams Gunn down and drops the Swan Dive for his own two. Gunn fights back with an elbow to the face and Benoit gets knocked to the apron. That means a suplex back inside but Saturn pulls the leg and holds it down to give Benoit the pin at 12:41.

Rating: D+. Pretty uninspired match here but the Radicalz winning was the only way to go. The team had been around for a long time now and it would be ridiculous to have them lose to the remnants of DX. The match wasn’t even any good with the Radicalz easily picking the team apart, mainly because it was the former Outlaws, Chyna and R-Truth.

Rock wouldn’t talk to Lilian Garcia as he arrived.

Chris Jericho thought is issues with Kane started over some spilled coffee but it is more complicated than that. It is about a man who looks in the mirror and sees the evil monster inside. Jericho is talking about himself though and he’s ready to prove that to Kane.

We recap Kane vs. Jericho, the latter of whom spilled coffee on Kane and made a reference to burning. Kane wasn’t happy and started torturing Jericho, including throwing him through a window and chokeslamming him onto the announcers’ table.

Kane vs. Chris Jericho

Jericho has a bad back coming in from the attacks. They slug it out to start with Kane getting the better of it as the Y2J chants start up. The dropkick puts Kane on the floor and the dive barely connects as Jericho’s foot gets caught on the rope. The springboard dropkick knocks Kane back to the floor as it’s a lot of getting in the shots that he can so far. Back in and Kane drops him face first onto the mat as we hit the monster stretch.

A belly to back suplex is countered and Jericho hammers away, only to get his head clotheslined off. Jericho gets choked over Kane’s back and the announcers continue to do a good job of selling the David vs. Goliath aspect here. A turnbuckle pad comes off and Kane goes to send Jericho face first into the steel (because Jericho is handsome and Kane hates anyone who isn’t a freak) but a raised foot is enough for the block. Instead Kane sends him to the floor and into various things, which is what monsters tend to do.

Back in and Jericho crotches him on top, gets shoved down, but still manages to dropkick Kane out of the air. A basement dropkick sets up a missile dropkick for two and the Walls go on. The rope is grabbed after a long stretch that didn’t have a lot of drama, mainly because Jericho was barely cranking on the thing. Jericho pulls him back and tries again but gets kicked in the face this time. The bulldog into the Lionsault (with Kane having to scoot over about a foot and a half) is blocked with a grab of the throat though and there’s the chokeslam for the pin at 12:35.

Rating: C. The ending would have been better had Kane not been so out of place at first but the rest wasn’t exactly great. For some reason I never got into this one and it just didn’t have that much drama. I do like Kane winning as it gives us a reason to keep things going, and this is the kind of thing that can go on for a bit.

Terri comes in to see the Radicalz and tells them that HHH is in the building and he’ll meet with them later. Laughter ensues.

European Title: William Regal vs. Hardcore Holly

Regal is defending in a match that was set up on Heat. Before the match, Regal mocks the Florida fans for not being able to elect a new President or understand something as basic as manners. Holly’s music cuts him off and I don’t think that counts as good manners either. Holly starts fast and hammers away but Regal goes with the wrestling by turning it into a lockup.

Regal pulls him chest first into the middle buckle and starts cranking on the arm, which had been broken earlier in the year and kept Holly on the shelf. Holly gets sent face first into the mat with a wristlock and Regal kneels down onto the arm again. A cross armbreaker keeps Holly in trouble until he manages a crossbody for a breather. Holly gets his arms tied in the ropes but manages to get free and knock Regal down. Sick of the wrestling thing, Holly grabs the title and hits Regal in the head for the DQ at 5:47.

Rating: D+. This felt like it was thrown in to fill time and odds are that is what they were doing. Holly got beaten up the entire time and then got disqualified in the end, which felt like more of a heel move than anything else. Just not very interesting of a match and it didn’t seem important either.

Trish comes in to see Angle and offers her, ahem, assistance tonight. He appreciates it but she can tell Test and Albert that he’s got Undertaker tonight. Kurt: “See you later!”

We recap the Rock vs. Rikishi. Last year, Rikishi ran over Steve Austin and accused Rock of telling him to do it. That wasn’t true though, with Rikishi saying that he did it for Rock because people like them weren’t going to get a shot in this company. Rock beat him up so Rikishi, with the help of real mastermind HHH, crushed Rock’s chest with a sledgehammer.

Rock vs. Rikishi

Rock has a bad chest coming in and charges in to hammer away. The Samoan drop (more like a backdrop) lets Rock grab a chair but the referee pulls it away, allowing Rikishi to superkick him down. Rock’s right hands don’t get him very far as Rikishi slams him right back down to take over again. Rikishi gets sent outside and his head goes into the steps….which shouldn’t hurt him.

It doesn’t seem to be that bad and Rikishi is back with a ram into the timekeeper’s bell. The ref gets bumped (of course) so it’s time to grab the sledgehammer. Since Rikishi is a bad villain (like, a really bad one), he takes so long that Rock can hit a Rock Bottom for a very delayed two. A headbutt to the chest puts Rock down and another one to the head has him rolling around in pain.

There’s another Samoa drop and Rikishi sits on his chest for two. Rikishi crushes him in the corner and gets in the Stinkface, which is the kind of embarrassment you don’t get from Rock too often. The hard clothesline turns Rikishi inside out and there’s a spinebuster, which only hurts the chest again. He’s fine enough to hit the People’s Elbow for the very delayed pin at 11:19.

Rating: C. Thank goodness, as having Rikishi beat the Rock would have been as ridiculous as having Rikishi be the big bad in a major storyline. This was as good as it was going to be and even then it was just a simple injury story. Rikishi is not believable in this spot and that is painfully obvious. At least he lost here, but it isn’t making this any less of a head scratcher.

Post match Rikishi superkicks him again and hits FOUR Banzai Drops. So yeah this is going to continue. Lucky us.

Raven is at WWF New York.

Steve Austin arrives. Dude it’s an hour and twenty minutes into the show. That’s bad even for you.

HHH and the Radicalz aren’t concerned so here’s Commissioner Mick Foley to say the Radicalz are banned from ringside and the match is now No DQ. HHH still doesn’t seem to mind.

Women’s Title: Ivory vs. Lita

Ivory, as part of the Right to Censor, is defending. Lita throws her down to start and the beatdown is on in a hurry. They get sloppy early on with Ivory shoving her away as Lawler talks about Lita’s underwear. Lita gets choked down in the corner as her eye is busted open BAD. More right hands keep Lita in trouble until she snaps off a headscissors for a breather.

Cue Steven Richards as Ivory is sent outside, meaning Lita gets to dive onto both of them. A high crossbody gets two on Ivory but Richards pulls her away from the Litasault. Somehow that isn’t a DQ, even with the referee looking right at her. The distraction lets Ivory grab the title but Lita suplexes her down. Now the Litasault hits the belt and Ivory retains at 4:56.

Rating: D+. They packed a lot into this one and that eye cut was nasty but it was a pretty weak effort, as was often the case around this era. The biggest problem is trying to put in so much stuff into a five minute match, as there is only so much you can cram into so little time before it stops working. That was the case here and it showed pretty badly.

Post match Lita is a bloody mess and has to be helped out.

Rock is pretty banged up.

Jericho jumps Kane in the back with a chair and drives him into a steel door. Various weapons are used until referees pull Jericho off.

We recap Kurt Angle vs. Undertaker for the WWF Title. Angle has been the greatest rookie in company history and Undertaker won a four way match to become #1 contender. Undertaker doesn’t think much of a nitwit like Angle, who isn’t laying down for anyone.

Undertaker talks about debuting here ten years ago and tonight, Angle takes his Last Ride.

WWF Title: Kurt Angle vs. Undertaker

Undertaker is challenging. Before the match, Angle talks about how this is his anniversary so the fans can vote on their favorite rookie year moment. Angle even lists them off until Undertaker’s entrance cuts him off for a tried and true idea. With Angle bailing, Undertaker holds up the title to get in Kurt’s head in a hurry. Undertaker grabs a chair so Angle hides behind the referee like a great coward.

That’s fine with Undertaker, who throws the chair to Angle….who uses it before the bell to take over early on. Angle stomps him down in the corner but you don’t do that to Undertaker, who switches places with him and hammers away. The big leg gets two and an elbow is good for the same, though the second one sees Undertaker pull him up. Old School connects as the fans are happy, though I can’t get around Undertaker’s near camouflage pants.

Angle snaps off the first suplex and Undertaker rolls to the floor, only to catch a diving Angle and drive him into the post. Back in and the big boot misses in the corner, which tends to be the case more often than not. The leg gets bent around the ropes as Angle is a lot more comfortable with the slower pace. Undertaker pulls him down into the Fujiwara armbar but cue Edge and Christian to distract the referee as Angle taps.

The distractions allow Angle to get up and take him back down by the leg, meaning it’s time to lay down and crank a bit. That’s broken up as well so Undertaker goes outside and beats up the Canadians, followed by a chokeslam for two on Angle. The champ is right back up and goes after the knee again, which does at least take Undertaker down for a bit. Angle grabs the Figure Four but gets it turned over for the break.

Undertaker gets two off a powerslam but Angle takes the leg again and Figure Fours it around the post for a bit. The leg is fine enough for Snake Eyes to get two and they’re both down again. A quick low blow (with the referee looking at them) doesn’t have much effect as Undertaker tries the Tombstone with Angle getting out to the apron. Angle tries to crawl underneath the ring but gets pulled back out for the Last Ride. That’s good for two….because the referee is counting the wrong man. That would be Kurt’s brother Eric, allowing Kurt to run back in and roll Undertaker up with tights for the pin at 16:03.

Rating: D+. I really wasn’t feeling this one as the leg stuff kept going but Undertaker kept getting back up without selling the thing. The ending was creative enough (or at least fresh) and that’s better than the selection of stupid finishes they could have used. Just not the best chemistry here and Undertaker never felt like he was in danger of taking a regular fall, which took away any drama they could have had.

Post match Kurt jumps in his car and gets out.

Video on the XFL cheerleaders. Like that’ll have any shelf life.

Edge and Christian/Right To Censor vs. Dudley Boyz/Hardy Boyz

Survivor Series again and Goodfather/Bull Buchanan, with Val Venis, are Tag Team Champions. Buchanan and Bubba start things off with nothing of note happening so it’s off to Goodfather to shoulder D-Von down instead. Everything breaks down in a hurry and it’s a quadruple DDT to plant the villains. The Hardys pull off their shirts to reveal Dudley camouflage but it takes too long, allowing Edge to hit the Edge O Matic to get rid of Matt at 3:58.

D-Von clotheslines Edge and Christian down but a Buchanan distraction sets up the Unprettier to get rid of D-Von at 5:08. Bubba comes in for a heck of a backdrop on Christian and it’s Jeff coming in. That goes better for Christian, who whips him ribs first into the post. Buchanan comes in and gets to stomp away, only to miss a charge so Bubba cane come back in and clean house.

Edge spears Buchanan by mistake and Bubba pins Bull at 7:32. The Bubba Bomb hits Edge and Christian splashes him by mistake to give Bubba another pin at 8:00. So it’s Bubba/Jeff vs. Christian/Goodfather in a bizarre tag match. The Death Valley Driver lets Goodfather get rid of Bubba at 8:42. Jeff is back up and takes Christian down for the Swanton and the pin at 9:34. Goodfather misses a splash in the corner though and Venis clotheslines him by mistake, allowing Jeff to steal the final pin at 10:05.

Rating: D. Oh this didn’t work as it needed about twice as long. They were flying through everything at once and nothing had a chance to make any kind of an impact. Jeff didn’t feel like he won as much as he was the only one they didn’t have time to eliminate. These eight are capable of WAY better but there is only so much that you can do in ten minutes with seven eliminations.

Post match the Right To Censor comes in to destroy Jeff but the Dudleys come in for the save. RTC is put through some tables for the big moment. They really needed to do this here instead of giving the match the extra time? I do miss Bubba’s trance for putting people through tables though.

HHH tells the Radicalz that they know what to do.

We recap HHH vs. Steve Austin. Rikishi ran Austin over last year but Austin came back and beat Rikishi up. Since it was Rikishi vs. Steve Austin, it was clear that someone had to be Rikishi’s boss, which of course was revealed as HHH. JR being stunned that the top heel in the company being the top heel in the story isn’t his best moment. Now it’s about revenge.

Steve Austin vs. HHH

No DQ and the Radicalz are banned from ringside. Austin goes straight to the slugging (as you may have guessed) and sends HHH head first into the buckle. A knee to the ribs sets up more shots to the face before Austin starts going after HHH’s bad back. The Thesz press and middle finger elbow send HHH outside as there is no point in trying for a cover yet. They fight up to the entrance with Austin picking up a piece scaffolding but getting punched back down.

The fight goes backstage for a bit before coming back to the entrance where Austin gets in a suplex. Back to ringside with both guys going into the steps and Austin stomps away at the timekeeper’s area. There’s a monitor shot to the head, followed by Austin picking up the cooler….but thinking twice about it because that’s what Austin does. Austin stomps away to leave a bloody HHH laying, meaning it’s time for a beer.

The empty can goes upside HHH’s busted head and it’s time to go inside again for a lot of punching. HHH’s low blow slows things down a bit and a neckbreaker takes him down. HHH crushes Austin’s head against the post and gets two off a clothesline. Austin grabs a spinebuster but misses the middle rope elbow. It’s back to the floor and a Pedigree attempt on the steps is countered with a backdrop through the announcers’ table.

Back in and the Stunner connects…for no cover. Instead Austin grabs the chair because it’s time for revenge. Austin gets a pretty disturbing smile on his face as he wraps the chair around HHH’s ankle. Hang on as let’s make it the neck instead, only to have HHH roll to the floor. They fight backstage again and here are the Radicalz to jump Austin with Eddie escorting HHH away.

Agents and referees try to break it up so Austin gets up and chases Benoit outside. HHH is out there as well but we’ve lost Austin so HHH is hiding in a car. Benoit goes off to find Austin and it’s HHH doing a near voiceover, saying we need to finish this. Cue Austin in a forklift to pick HHH’s car up and drop it down (HHH: “HOLY S***!”) to end the show. We’ll say the match ended at about 25:00.

Rating: B+. They did exactly what they should have done here and didn’t try to do anything else. This was all about violence and Austin getting some aggression out because HHH tried to kill him. Austin even had the big moment near the end with the Pillmanizing of the neck. This went well and outside of the ending with the car, it was a heck of a brawl with HHH not getting squashed, as he shouldn’t have.

Overall Rating: D+. The main event helped a lot but this just wasn’t a very good show. It was all about the one big match, Undertaker vs. Angle with a screwy finish and then the just ok Rock vs. Rikishi match. Things were in a weird place here with Austin and Rock now fighting over the top spot and it is clear that Rock took a step down at least for tonight. Rikishi being in one of the bigger matches on a major show is hardly a believable spot and this show just does not hold up, outside of the main event.

Ratings Comparison

Steve Blackman/Crash Holly/Molly Holly vs. T&A/Trish Stratus

Original: D+

2012 Redo: C-

2019 Redo: C-

The Radicalz vs. Team Chyna

Original: B-

2012 Redo: C

2019 Redo: D+

Kane vs. Chris Jericho

Original: B-

2012 Redo: C-

2019 Redo: C

William Regal vs. Hardcore Holly

Original: D-

2012 Redo: D-

2019 Redo: D+

The Rock vs. Rikishi

Original: B

2012 Redo: C+

2019 Redo: C

Ivory vs. Lita

Original: D+

2012 Redo: D

2019 Redo: D+

Kurt Angle vs. Undertaker

Original: B-

2012 Redo: C+

2019 Redo: D+

Team Dudley Boys vs. Team Edge and Christian

Original: C-

2012 Redo: C-

2019 Redo: D+

Steve Austin vs. HHH

Original: D-

2012 Redo: B-

2019 Redo: B+

Overall Rating:

Original: D+

2012 Redo: C-

2019 Redo: D+

Dang I’m all over the place with this one but yeah it’s not a great show by any stretch.

Here’s the original review if you’re interested:

https://kbwrestlingreviews.com/2011/07/24/survivor-series-2000-i-never-remember-this-show/

And the 2012 Redo:

https://kbwrestlingreviews.com/2015/11/07/survivor-series-count-up-2000-no-selling-a-car-crash/

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Survivor Series Count-Up – 1998 (2012 Redo): This Show Keeps Going Screwy

Survivor Series 1998
Date: November 15, 1998
Location: Kiel Center, St. Louis, Missouri
Attendance: 21,779
Commentators: Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler

This is what you call a one idea show as the entire show (almost) is dedicated to a tournament to crown a new world champion. Austin got robbed of the title and then wouldn’t count a win as guest referee in a title match, so tonight there’s a big tournament to determine the new champion. Also the Corporation now exists to make sure Austin doesn’t win. There’s also talk of someone joining the Corporation tonight as the Corporate Champion and the new top soldier for Vince. Let’s get to it.

The opening video is of the people in the tournament talking about wanting to be champion.

I’ve always loved the theme song to this show. I did when I was a kid and I have it on my iPod today.

JR and the King talk about a big brawl that happened on Heat. They don’t actually say WHO WAS IN IT, but it was apparently quite a braw.

Here are the tournament brackets:

Undertaker

BYE

Kane

BYE

Rock

HHH

Goldust

Ken Shamrock

Mankind

???

Jeff Jarrett

Al Snow

X-Pac

Steven Regal

Steve Austin

Big Boss Man

This is a tournament where you could have easily cut out the first round and made it an eight man tournament but I guess they needed to fill in the time.

Here’s Vince to open things up. If I remember right Undertaker and Kane recently shattered his ankle so he’s hopping to the ring. Vince does a big intro for Mankind who is Corporate but is more of a comedic putz who Vince manipulates to do whatever he wants. He’s also Hardcore Champion.

WWF World Title Tournament First Round: Mankind vs. ???

Vince gives a LONG speech about the mystery opponent and it’s….Duane Gill. He was a jobber who injured his shoulder and was gone for two years to WCW. The fans thought it would be Shawn Michaels and are ticked off by the reveal. Then again it’s meant to be a joke so it’s not that big of a deal. The pyro scares Gill to death ala Eric Young. Gill is wearing a Pasadena Chargers shirt, which is an elementary school football team he coaches. Mankind is in a tuxedo and wins in 30 seconds with the double arm DDT. It would seem that a conspiracy is afoot.

Earlier tonight on Heat, Jacqueline jumped Sable. This gives us ANGRY Sable which is more funny than interesting or intimidating.

WWF World Title Tournament: Jeff Jarrett vs. Al Snow

This is Debra’s PPV debut. The winner gets Mankind and the first round matches only have ten minute time limits. Snow chases Debra around on the floor but hits a flip dive onto Jarrett off the stairs in a cool spot. We head inside and I think a bell has rung but I’m not sure. Jeff hotshots Al onto the top rope to take over but Snow is looking all psycho. Snow comes back and takes Jeff down before going up.

A guillotine legdrop misses and a dropkick takes Al down for two. Snow comes back with a crucifix for another two and counters a spinebuster into a DDT for two. They collide and here’s Debra with the Head. Snow goes to find it but gets Jeff’s guitar instead. Jeff finds Head but the referee gets the guitar out of the ring. During the distraction, Snow steals Head and KO’s Jarrett with it to advance.

Rating: C+. This is a good idea: take two talented guys and let them have a match. What more do you need to do? The ending was a little screwy but they got there on a smooth wrestling match. When Russo could be held back from making things too crazy, late 98 WWF had more than enough talent to put on fun matches like this. Good stuff.

WWF World Title Tournament: Steve Austin vs. Big Boss Man

They’re flying through this so far. Boss Man goes after Austin in the aisle but you don’t win a fist fight against Austin in 1998. Austin sends him into the steps and we head in for the bell. Vince is watching in the back as Austin hits the Thesz Press and the middle finger elbow for two. Boss Man hits Austin low to come back but it just gets a warning. After a quick chinlock there’s the running crotch attack to Austin’s back and an uppercut for two. Austin makes his comeback and stomps a mudhole in the corner. We head to the floor and Boss Man hits Austin in the ribs with a nightstick for the DQ.

Rating: C-. Nothing of note to see here but this was more about story than the match. Did anyone expect Austin to get eliminated by Boss Man? This is the kind of roll Boss Man was good at: enhancing a story and taking something out of the bigger name before we get to the important stuff with the bigger names later on. There’s nothing wrong with that and it kept him employed for years.

Vince smiles at the ending as Austin gets beaten down by the stick some more. He says the night is young.

WWF World Title Tournament First Round: X-Pac vs. Steven Regal

This is one of those matches that doesn’t need to exist. The winner gets Austin and X-Pac is European Champion coming in. Regal is a REAL MAN’S MAN here. Lawler sings the song as Regal comes to the ring in a funny bit. Either that or the audio messed up there for a bit. Pac kicks him down and suplexes Regal for two. Two of those fast legdrops get another two on Regal but the Bronco Buster misses.

Regal puts on an abdominal stretch on the mat as things slow down a bit. Regal charges into the corner but gets caught in a sunset flip but he rolls out of that too and hits a slingshot to send Pac flying. Off to a surfboard stretch as things slow down again. This is probably the longest match so far and it’s not even four minutes in yet. A gutwrench suplex puts Pac down and it’s off to a headscissors.

Pac rolls that over and gets a freaky looking hold where he was on his back with his legs by Regal’s head but he was cranking on the legs in a Sharpshooter position. That gets him nowhere but it looked good. Regal puts Pac on the top and hits a butterfly superplex for two. Back to another rib/arm hold as the fans are getting a little restless. Back up and they collide in the corner before X-Pac kicks his head off for two. The Bronco Buster hits this time but Pac goes up and gets crotched, falling to the floor. They fight for awhile out there and it’s a double countout to give Austin a bye.

Rating: C-. Much like the other three matches, this didn’t need to exist. The match was ok and one of the longer matches of the night (about eight minutes) but it doesn’t need to happen. This is a match you could easily take out and give to a longer match later on. I mean, did ANYONE see these two as threats to the title? Of course not.

Vince isn’t happy with that and insists on overtime. It’s sudden death too, making it just like every other wrestling match on the show tonight. That goes nowhere though as X-Pac walks to the back.

WWF World Title Tournament First Round: Goldust vs. Ken Shamrock

Shamrock is IC Champion coming in. Ken starts with a leg lariat and pounds away at Goldie. Goldust misses a lariat but a second attempt connects to shift the momentum. Shamrock clotheslines him out of the corner for two as this is starting very slowly so far. Off to a reverse chinlock followed by a Russian legsweep for two. A regular chinlock follows that up but Goldust makes a comeback. That lasts about four seconds as Shamrock avoids a charge in the corner. A powerbomb from Goldie is countered and the referee blocks his Shattered Dreams attempt. It’s rana, belly to belly and ankle lock for the tap out win for Ken.

Rating: D-. This was a long and uninteresting squash. Goldust was at a weird point here as he didn’t really do anything and wasn’t weird or creepy anymore. He was just kind of there as a guy who used to be good but in this match he could have been Barry Horowitz and been as much of a threat to Shamrock. Terribly dull stuff here.

Austin has refused medical attention but Cole thinks he’ll be here later in the tournament.

WWF World Title Tournament First Round: The Rock vs. HHH

Oh wait HHH is hurt so we’ve got a replacement.

WWF World Title Tournament First Round: The Rock vs. Big Boss Man

Roc literally immediately rolls Boss Man up and wins in three seconds, setting a new WWF record.

Here are the updated brackets for the quarterfinals:

Undertaker

Kane

Rock

Ken Shamrock

Mankind

Al Snow

Steve Austin

BYE

WWF World Title Tournament Quarterfinals: Undertaker vs. Kane

Taker has Bearer here and is heel but he’s against the other heel faction headed by Vince. Naturally they were working together all along but that wouldn’t be revealed for about seven months. Kane pounds on Taker in the corner and not a lot of selling is going on. Kane kicks Taker down and clotheslines him out to the floor. The masked one stays on the offense on the floor but gets dropped face first onto the barricade.

Back in and Taker slugs away but there still isn’t much selling going on. Kane powerslams Taker down but Taker sits up to avoid an elbow. Kane sits up as well and we get more punching. Taker gets a boot up in the corner and starts working on Kane’s leg. The leg work goes on for awhile because neither guy is capable of doing anything with any kind of speed whatsoever. They get back up and it’s MORE punching. This is slow even for a Taker match to give you an indication of what I’m sitting through.

Taker gets caught in the corner with a clothesline and the top rope clothesline follows it up for two. They slug it out some more and good grief SELL SOMETHING ALREADY! Taker tries a chokeslam but gets countered into one by Kane. Bearer distracts Kane on the apron though and Taker pops up with a tombstone to eliminate Kane.

Rating: F+. This was horrible as it was clear Taker wasn’t interested in trying and Kane was only able to do so much in the first place. The match sucked as a result and things would only get worse as time went on. We would soon get into crucifixions, burials (as in dirt over bodies in graves) and demonic possessions. WRESTLING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!

WWF World Title Tournament Quarterfinals: Mankind vs. Al Snow

Mankind is still in his tuxedo. Snow jumps him to start and hits a clothesline for no cover. Mankind heads to the floor for a chair but Snow gets in a few shots to block it. A big chair shot misses Mankind against the post and Snow gets dropped on the chair to give the masked guy control. Back in and Snow grabs Head but Mankind suplexes him down to take it out of Snow’s hands. Here’s Socko (which had been stolen by Snow and wrapped around Head’s…uh…self? Mankind clotheslines Snow down but gets caught in a sitout spinebuster for two. The double arm DDT puts Snow down and the Claw finishes Snow.

Rating: D+. Another pretty worthless match but Mankind and Snow always seemed to have fun together out there. At the end of the day though, it’s Al Snow vs. Mankind in a world title tournament match so it wasn’t exactly a secret as to who was going to win. Then again that’s the problem with almost every wrestling tournament you have. Not much to see here but it could have been worse.

WWF World Title Tournament Quarterfinals: Ken Shamrock vs. The Rock

Winner gets Undertaker. Shamrock gets in a quick kick to the face but Rock clotheslines him down to take over. Ken hooks a quick suplex for two and hits a clothesline in the corner. Rock hits another clothesline to take over. Out to the floor and Rock spits water in Shamrock’s face, prompting Ken to send him into the steps. Back in and Shamrock stomps away before hitting a leg lariat to take Rock down.

A Russian legsweep gets two for Shamrock and a running knee lift sets up a chinlock. Rock comes back with right hands but here comes Boss Man. Back to the chinlock as the fans get on the Boss Man. Rock makes a quick comeback attempt but gets caught in the ankle lock. While that would make Rock tap out in a few seconds back in the day, he’s a good guy now so he fights to a rope.

Double clotheslines put both guys down and Rock starts taking over. Boss Man tries to interfere but it allows Rock to hit Shamrock low. There’s the People’s Elbow but it only gets two. The Rock Bottom is countered but Boss Man throws in the nightstick to Shamrock. Rock intercepts it though and KO’s Ken to make the final four.

Rating: C-. Another not that great match here but it was better than most of what we’ve had so far. Shamrock is another guy like Boss Man who is a great soldier but was never going to get much higher than he was here. He certainly had a better chance at it than Boss Man, but that’s not saying all that much.

The final four are now set:

Undertaker

The Rock

Mankind

Steve Austin

Bearer says Undertaker will win.

Women’s Title: Sable vs. Jacqueline

Jackie is defending. Shane McMahon is referee after being demoted by Vince. Jackie kicks Sable down and, wait for it, runs her mouth. Sable comes back with a TKO but Mero pulls her out at two. Sable kicks Mero low and powerbombs him on the floor. Jackie decks Sable and runs her mouth some more. Did I mention I REALLY don’t like Jackie? Sable counters a tornado DDT and powerbombs Jackie for the pin and the title.

Rating: D-. It came, it went, it wasn’t any good at all. People actually cared Sable, but the title became a prop very quickly. There’s just nothing else to say here.

WWF World Title Tournament Semifinals: Mankind vs. Steve Austin

Austin is banged up from the nightstick attack earlier but he goes right at Mankind to start. He rips Mankind’s shoe off and whacks him in the head with it as Vince is wheeled out. The distraction lets Mankind take over and hit a running knee in the corner. There’s the Thesz Press but Mankind escapes the Stunner. Mankind runs out of the ring and towards the entrance but the Stooges bring him back.

Foley sends Austin into the steps and then into the crowd as we’re firmly in brawl mode here. Back to ringside and Austin goes face first into the steps. Off to a reverse chinlock in the ring on Austin but Stone Cold makes a comeback. They clothesline each other down and Vince is getting worried. Austin rams into him and stomps a mudhole but Mankind goes out and gets a chair. That gets kicked into his face but Mankind hits the double arm onto the chair for two.

A piledriver on the chair is broken up because it would have destroyed Austin’s neck which was already in pieces. The Stunner hits but Vince jumps out of his wheelchair and beats up the referee. Mankind loses his tuxedo pants and puts on the Claw but there’s the Stunner. Shane comes in to count the pin but stops at two and flips Austin off, opening up a BIG plot hole which was probably explained by Russo logic. Remember that it was SHANE that rehired Austin, but apparently he was working with his dad the whole time. So why rehire him? Anyway Brisco hits Austin with a chair and Mankind takes the pin to go to the finals.

Rating: C+. Definitely the best match of the night so far. It was insanely overbooked but it was certainly the best match. Imagine that: take two of the best ever and give them some time and you get the best match of the night. This also opens up the door for a surprise ending, as Austin was the favorite going into the tournament. Basically they’ve done the DiBiase master plan from Mania IV but it actually worked here.

Vince and company immediately get in the limo and leave with Austin in pursuit. Austin hijacks a car and we’ve got a chase scene.

WWF World Title Tournament Semifinals: The Rock vs. Undertaker

Rock pounds away in the corner to start but Taker gets in a clothesline to the back of the head to take Rock down. We head to the floor and after being sent into the barricade, Taker knocks Rock’s head off with another clothesline. Back inside and an elbow puts Rock down before Taker chokes on the mat. An uppercut puts Rock in the ropes and Taker pounds away.

Taker charges at Rock but gets backdropped to the floor and hit in the face with a water bottle. They head into the crowd for a few seconds and Taker gets the advantage back again. They slug it out with Taker getting the advantage again before walking into a Samoan Drop. Here comes the Boss Man again as Taker sits up. Rock comes back and loads up the Elbow but Boss Man trips him up. Taker hits Boss Man for reasons of EVIL, but here’s Kane to chokeslam Rock, sending him to the finals by DQ.

Rating: D. If there have ever been two big names with worse chemistry than Rock and Undertaker, I’d like to know who they are. These two just could not have a good match together if their lives depended on it back in the Attitude Era. It never clicked no matter how many times they main evented PPVs. This didn’t work either but at least it wasn’t that long of a match.

Taker and Kane brawl everywhere.

Mankind is ready to climb his last Rock.

Tag Titles: New Age Outlaws vs. Headbangers vs. D’Lo Brown/Mark Henry

The Outlaws are defending of course. This was set up on Raw with both challenging teams doing something that I can’t remember to earn the shot. Billy and Brown start things off but Mosh comes in off a blind tag to try to steal a pin on Billy. Mosh hits a running body attack in the corner on Gunn before diving at Brown as well. This is pretty messy so far. The Outlaws pound on the former Nation guys in opposite corners before the Headbangers double team Roadie.

Brown and Mosh trade pin attempts on Dogg. This is the old triple threat tag match rules where there are three people at a time in there which I’ve always preferred. Off to Henry for a bearhug on Roadie until Mosh makes the save. Off to Brown, Thrasher and Dogg as this continues to be ugly stuff. Gunn gets in a LOUD argument with the referee as Brown ranas Thrasher off the top.

Roadie pounds on Brown and Thrasher but Henry takes his head off with a clothesline. Brown’s running powerbomb to Thrasher is countered into a sunset flip for two. A Henry legdrop gets the same on Dogg, followed by the Headbangers double teaming Roadie for the same. Brown offers a pact with Mosh but gets kicked in the balls for his efforts. JR can almost be heard moaning at how bad this match is. Roadie finally escapes the beating for the hot tag to Billy. The fans LOVED the Outlaws so at least they’re reacting here.

Brown hits the Sky High on Billy but since everyone is out of position, it takes forever to start the count. Jesse Ventura would have a field day with this. To further the stupidity here, Billy hits a Fameasser on Mosh but Henry makes the save with a splash, also hitting Mosh. Mark just stays on top of Mosh for a cover, but after two finisher it only gets two. That Mosh man, he’s TOUGH. Billy finally piledrives Mosh to retain the titles.

Rating: F. This was terrible and there’s no other way to put it. They were all over the place and no one was even reading the same book out there. The referee had to count very slowly so the saves could be made and there was no flow to this at all. Just awful and JR’s commentary makes it even funnier, but in a kind of sad way.

We recap Austin getting cheated out of the finals.

WWF World Title: The Rock vs. Mankind

Vince and Shane are back and are talking with Boss Man backstage. Feeling out process to start as Lawler makes fun of Halloween Havoc going off the air earlier a few weeks prior to this. Rock gets two off a clothesline and they head to the floor quickly. Rock gets rammed into the steps and Mankind takes over. Back inside for a chinlock as the McMahons come out. JR is very annoyed at various things and he vents a bit as they come to the ring. A suplex gets Rock out of the hold and Mankind is sent outside.

Rock suplexes Mankind on the floor but he has to go after the McMahons a bit. Into the crowd we go with Rock in control. He backdrops Mankind back to ringside and we head into the ring for a Rock chinlock. Mankind fights back up and hits a Cactus Clothesline to take it back to the floor. A chair takes Rock down again and Mankind gets the steps, only to have them knocked down onto him. Rock pounds on the steps on Mankind with the chair before cracking Mankind over the head with the chair.

That gets two back in the ring but Mankind kicks Rock low to take over again. Rock is sent back to the floor for the elbow off the apron. Mankind starts taking the announce table apart as JR loses it even more. Mankind is heel for the most part coming in but he’s a sympathetic heel. A legdrop on the table mostly misses Rock but it gets two back inside. Off to the chinlock again and Rock’s comeback is cut short by a backdrop to the floor again.

Back in again and Rock hits a DDT to put both guys down. Mankind sends him to the floor AGAIN but a middle rope elbow to the floor sends the masked one through the announce table. The crash looked great if nothing else. We head back inside and the People’s Elbow gets two. A double arm DDT puts Rock down and here’s Socko. Rock hangs on in the Claw forever and comes out of it with a Rock Bottom but it only gets a delayed two. Rock puts on the Sharpshooter and Vince says ring the bell just like last year, giving Rock the title, because Rock is Corporate. He’s also the new champion.

Rating: C-. This definitely wasn’t their best performance with the constant going to the floor getting old fast. Mankind would have his day but it would take awhile to get there. This was all about the shock which shouldn’t be a shock when you think about it. All night it was assumed that Mankind was the Corporate guy, but let’s look at this.

Rock’s first match was against a corporate guy and he just happens to get the easiest pin ever. Then a corporate guy throws in a nightstick so Rock can beat another corporate guy. Then Rock wins by DQ, and now this. That’s establishing a story and giving clues instead of an illogical swerve. It’s easy to tell which is better as this is shocking, but also MAKES SENSE. This is what Russo was capable of, but we almost never got to see it.

Rock hugs the McMahons and JR erupts. Vince says the people have themselves to blame and the explanation is coming tomorrow on Raw. Mankind isn’t sure what to do. Vince brags about screwing Austin over and Shane brags a bit in general. Rock says it’s time for the fans to pucker up to him. Mankind wants to know why he lost because he never gave up. Rock hits him with the belt and here’s Austin to clean house. This set up Rock vs. Austin for the title the next night in a HUGE match which I believe set a then ratings record.

Overall Rating: D+. This show was ALL about the stories and not much about the wrestling. The matches were mostly bad with a few ok ones, but those aren’t the point. This was about Vince and Shane doing their things and getting their Corporate Champion. All of that was accomplished and this set the stage until Wrestlemania. This show doesn’t really hold up that well on its own, but in context this would have been gold.

Ratings Comparison

Mankind vs. Duane Gill

Original: N/A

Redo: N/A

Al Snow vs. Jeff Jarrett

Original: B+

Redo: C+

Steve Austin vs. Big Boss Man

Original: D

Redo: C-

X-Pac vs. Steven Regal

Original: B

Redo: C-

Ken Shamrock vs. Goldust

Original: D+

Redo: D-

The Rock vs. Big Boss Man

Original: A (For Are you kidding me)

Redo: N/A

Undertaker vs. Kane

Original: C-

Redo: F+

Mankind vs. Al Snow

Original: D

Redo: D+

The Rock vs. Ken Shamrock

Original: C-

Redo: C-

Sable vs. Jacqueline

Original: D

Redo: D-

Mankind vs. Steve Austin

Original: C+

Redo: C+

The Rock vs. Undertaker

Original: B-

Redo: D

New Age Outlaws vs. D’Lo Brown/Mark Henry vs. The Headbangers

Original: F

Redo: F

Mankind vs. The Rock

Original: B-

Redo: C-

Overall Rating:

Original: C+

Redo: D+

Man what was I thinking with some of those ratings? I had no idea what I was doing back then and it shows.

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Survivor Series Count-Up – 1999 (2021 Redo): This Was Way Off

Survivor Series 1999
Date: November 14, 1999
Location: Joe Louis Arena, Detroit, Michigan
Attendance: 18,735
Commentators: Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler

We’re back in the Attitude Era for this year’s redo and that could make for some interesting moments. This is also a strange time for the company as everything is changing again. That being said, we do have a dream match main event, with HHH defending the WWF Title against the Rock and Steve Austin with Vince McMahon as the guest referee. That should be enough to carry the show so let’s get to it.

The opening video looks at the triple threat and nothing more. Do you really need anything else?

Godfather/D’Lo Brown/Headbangers vs. Acolytes/Dudley Boyz

Survivor Series match and the Dudleys are brand new. Godfather gets in his big intro and my goodness his overness is something to behold. Brown is in his own Godfather style gear and it oddly suits him. The Headbangers do the same and….yeah it doesn’t have the same charm. Since everyone has to do something other than wrestle, Bubba asks about the Godfather’s women, but Godfather makes fun of the stutter (because we’re so early in his WWF run that Bubba still has a stutter) to say no.

Bubba and Mosh start things off, with Bubba stealing his afro to make it personal. A clothesline drops Mosh and it’s off to D-Von, who gets dropkicked and armdragged. It’s off to Thrasher as the crowd isn’t quite thrilled with what they’re seeing here. D-Von clotheslines his way out of trouble and it’s off to Bradshaw, who knocks Thrasher’s afro off. Thrasher misses the charge in the corner though and the Clothesline From Bradshaw is good for the elimination.

The Acolytes shoulder Mosh down but a Godfather distraction means no cover. Instead it’s D-Von’s turn to miss a charge in the corner, allowing Mosh to choke on the ropes for a bit. That’s too much for Bubba, who comes in off a blind tag and hits the 3D to get rid of the other Headbanger. Brown comes in and takes Bubba down for the headshaking legdrop. Bradshaw isn’t down with that so it’s a chair to Brown for the DQ. Another chair drops Bubba as well, leaving to D-Von and Faarooq brawling to the floor for a double countout, meaning it’s Bubba vs. Godfather/D’Lo.

A good side slam plants Brown for two and Bubba hits a snap jab, only to walk into the Sky High for a near fall. Brown takes his sweet time loading up a super hurricanrana and gets superbombed down for two more. There’s the double clothesline to put both of them down again and NOW Bubba realizes he has no one to tag. Godfather comes in to clean house in a hurry, including the Ho Train into the Low Down for the final pin at 9:37.

Rating: D+. Not exactly a great way to get going here as it just wasn’t that good of a match. The talent was there, but it felt like a way to get rid of a bunch of people before Godfather got the win. That isn’t the worst thing, but it isn’t an interesting way to kick the show off. Having the Godfather out there to start is a smart move, though I’m not sure how much of an impact it had after the nine minute build to the big ending.

Video on some guy who is making his debut tonight and has been successful everywhere else. His name is Kurt Angle.

Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Stasiak

This is Angle’s debut and Stasiak is so important that we see some footage of his dad during his entrance. Angle fireman’s carries him down to start and it’s an early standoff. Stasiak gets taken down again as they stay on the mat, drawing a LET’S GO RED WINGS chant. Back up and Angle scores with a slam, allowing him to pose a bit. You can feel the confidence starting to rise here and that’s exactly how Angle should be going here. Stasiak is back up with a clothesline and stomps away to take over.

The jumping back elbow sets up a chinlock but Angle is right back with a clothesline. Angle heads outside and grabs a chinlock, saying that YOU DO NOT BOO AN OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALIST! Back in and Stasiak knocks him right back down for another chinlock. Angle gets up again, this time with a powerslam but Stasiak hits a layout F5 of all things. That’s enough for Angle, who avoids a crossbody and debuts what would become known as the Olympic/Angle Slam for the pin at 5:57.

Rating: D+. This was only going to be so good as it was a pretty lame way to debut Angle. It was mainly Stasiak doing his usually bad stuff and Angle trying to get in a few things. That being said, Angle would catch fire in a hurry as the company figured out exactly how to use him in short order. He would be defending the WWF Title at this show next year, so he was doing something right.

Earlier tonight on Heat, Steve Austin flipped off HHH and the Rock, drawing out DX for a big brawl.

Gangrel/Mark Henry/Steve Blackman/Val Venis vs. British Bulldog/Mean Street Posse

In case you’re missing it, commentary points out that Venis and company have nothing in common. I mean, they all do have some pretty rocking theme music. Bulldog is European Champion as the WWF continues to try to make him something in the late 90s. Venis shoulders Bulldog down as JR is already talking about Montreal. Lawler wants more details on that as Pete Gas tags in, does nothing, and tags back out.

Bulldog takes Venis down and it’s back to Gas, who actually manages a belly to back suplex. That earns him a bulldog and it’s Blackman coming in (JR: “This could get ugly.”) and the beating is on in a hurry. The bicycle kick finishes Pete off and it’s 4-3. Gangrel sends Rodney into the corner but gets caught in a crucifix for two. That’s enough from Rodney, as Gangrel hits the implant DDT for the fast pin. Henry comes in to hammer on Joey Abs, including the running crotch attack to the back of the neck.

A big splash finishes Joey in a hurry (JR: “The first man to ever wear a green sweater vest at the Survivor Series has been eliminated.”) and it’s Bulldog vs. everyone else. Bulldog wastes no time in superplexing Gangrel for an elimination. Blackman comes in for a rollup but Bulldog is right back with a fisherman’s suplex to get rid of Blackman and make it 2-1. Bulldog’s sunset flip gets two, with Henry making the save. A double clothesline drops Henry and Venis but Henry is back up with a hard slam. The Money Shot gives Venis the pin at 9:06.

Rating: D. One of the problems with Survivor Series matches is you can see that a match is about one or two people, but that doesn’t work very well in an eight man match. This was about the Bulldog, Venis and maybe Henry, meaning the other people involved were just kind of there. The match was short but not very good, making this another weak entry on a show full of them so far.

Michael Cole goes into the women’s locker room and gets to rub Ivory’s stomach. Then he runs away in fear.

Mae Young/Fabulous Moolah/Debra/Tori vs. Ivory/Jacqueline/Luna/Terri Runnels

One fall to a finish, or sudden death as the introduction calls it. Lawler nearly loses it over Debra, as tends to be his custom. Mae jumps Ivory (Women’s Champion) on the floor to start as JR doesn’t think this is going to be a classic. Jacqueline and Luna can’t figure out a double DDT on Tori as Lawler keeps making old jokes about Mae and Moolah. Tori clotheslines Ivory and Luna and it’s off to Moolah for the forearms. Mae and Moolah hit a double clothesline to pin Ivory at 1:50. No this didn’t lead to the 77 year old Moolah winning the title. She had already done that back in October.

Clothing is removed post match.

X-Pac is ready for Kane because he knows he is the better man. Kane must have an inferiority complex because he’s 7ft tall and the 6’1 (HA) X-Pac can beat him.

Kane vs. X-Pac

Earlier today Kane’s girlfriend Tori talked about how he was ready to hurt X-Pac for making it personal. Oh and X-Pac’s testicular fortitude is lacking. X-Pac hammers away in the corner to start but Kane throws him into the corner and shows him it is properly done. A clothesline drops X-Pac again and some choking sends him into the corner.

Kane goes up but gets crotched down to send him outside in a crash. Back in and the spinwheel kick drops Kane into the corner but he’s fine enough to block the Bronco Buster with a hand around the throat. There’s the big boot into the top rope clothesline, setting up the chokeslam. Cue Road Dogg for the save so Kane beats him up before kicking out of the X Factor. The Tombstone looks to finish X-Pac but HHH comes in with the WWF Title to Kane’s head for the DQ at 4:15.

Rating: C-. This could have been on any given episode of Raw and that’s rarely a good sign on a pay per view. These two had a long feud and it only got so good as X-Pac got the better of Kane far too often. Tori would be leaving Kane for X-Pac soon enough, because Kane can never get to be a happy monster.

Post match the beatdown is on so Tori runs in, only to get kicked in the face by X-Pac. That’s too much for Kane, who gets up and scares DX off.

The Rock has something to say but here is HHH to shove him. The fight is nearly on referees break it up. Commentary isn’t sure what HHH was thinking here.

Big Show vs. Prince Albert/Mideon/Big Boss Man/Viscera

This is basically Boss Man and Friends vs. Big Show, who beat up his scheduled partners (Kai En Tai and Blue Meanie) on Heat. Show charges into the ring, chokeslams Mideon for the pin in about 20 seconds, chokeslams Albert for the pin in about 30 seconds, slams and chokeslams Viscera for the pin in about 55 seconds and wins by countout at 1:24 when Boss Man runs away (running past his partners in the process). Yeah that worked.

HHH breaks up a Steve Austin interview and the chase is on, with DX following. Austin winds up in a parking garage…and gets run over by a car, putting him on the shelf for the better part of a year. After commentary reiterates what we just saw, Stephanie and Vince McMahon and Test arrive as medics tend to Austin. Vince panics and wants security to find out what happened. HHH shows up as Shane is here too to yell at DX, who say this isn’t what they do. JR is back there as well as the medics (with Vince’s help) get Austin onto the stretcher. He’s finally loaded up and it’s back to the arena.

Intercontinental Title: Chris Jericho vs. Chyna

Chyna is defending and has Miss Kitty with her, while Jericho has promised to get a sex change if he loses. Jericho jumps them to start and shoves Kitty down, earning himself a clothesline. The double stomping has Jericho out on the floor but he chokes away with a camera cord.

Back in and Jericho hammers away in the corner until Chyna drops him throat first onto the top rope. Jericho gets sent into the corner, setting up a running baseball in the Tree of Woe. That’s too much for Jericho, who whips him hard over the corner and out to the floor again. Chyna gets whipped into the barricade, setting up the missile dropkick for two back inside. A delayed vertical suplex gives Jericho two more and there’s a bulldog to set up the slingshot splash.

The spinwheel kick lets Jericho nip up into the long walk (dang I had forgotten about that one) and then clothesline her outside. That’s not good enough for Jericho, who goes outside to kiss Miss Kitty, which brings Chyna back up to hammer away. Jericho isn’t into the hammering thing though and powerbombs her down for two more.

The Lionsault misses though and Chyna grabs a DDT for two of her own. A Pedigree connects for two more but Jericho is right back with the Walls. That’s broken up with a crawl to the rope for the break so Jericho takes her up top. Chyna manages a quick low blow though and a super Pedigree (read as they load one up and Jericho jumps backwards onto his face) retains the title at 13:35.

Rating: C. I know she was a legit big star and all that jazz, but there are times where Chyna’s matches really don’t hold up. That was the case here, as a lot of this stuff didn’t look good. What mattered is that it felt like a full on match, with both of them working hard and Chyna never looked like she was in totally over her head. It wasn’t great, but a woman holding the Intercontinental Title is still a pretty big deal, as she was having a straight match rather than some kind of screwy deal with all kinds of ways to protect Chyna.

DX comes in to see Shane McMahon and company but HHH swears he didn’t do it. HHH does ask if the main event is still a triple threat but gets thrown out.

Hollies/Too Cool vs. Edge and Christian/Hardy Boyz

Survivor Series elimination match with single eliminations rather than teams and Terri Runnels is here with the Hardys. Edge and Scotty start things off with the slugout until Scotty chops away in the corner. JR even flat out says he’s not into this match because of Austin, which does make sense in this case. Crash comes in and gets dropped ribs first onto his the mat for two before Matt drops an elbow for two.

Matt crotches him on the top and sends him outside for the slingshot dive. Another dive, this one from Grandmaster, takes everyone out so Hardcore backdrops Jeff onto everyone plus Grandmaster for the really big crash (you knew that was coming). Back in and Christian powerslams Crash for two but the Hollies come back with a Hart Attack of all things for two on Christian.

Grandmaster adds a bulldog for two but a second is countered with a shove into the corner for a crotching (and a kicked camera). The hot tag brings in Edge for a spear to both Hollies and another to Grandmaster. The fourth hits Matt though and Scotty sends Jeff into Edge, allowing Hardcore to grab a rollup for the elimination. Then Scotty hits a top rope DDT to get rid of Matt in a hurry so it’s Jeff coming in next. Scotty dropkicks the knee out and there’s the Worm to make it worse for Jeff.

Too Cool’s assisted sitout powerbomb gets two more as JR has had it with Lawler cheering for Grandmaster. A middle rope dropkick gets two on Scotty and another Hart Attack gets the same as everything breaks down. The Hollies start fighting with each other, allowing Christian to hit Too Cool low. Jeff is right back up with a 450 to get rid of Scotty and it’s 3-2.

Christian plays Matt in Poetry In Motion on Crash but Hardcore dropkicks Jeff out of the air for trying to do it again. Grandmaster adds the Hip Hop Drop to get rid of Jeff but Christian grabs the reverse layout DDT to make it 2-1 (the Hollies vs. Christian). Hardcore hits a suplex and Crash grabs a Boston crab so Hardcore can stomp away. Christian is right back up with the reverse layout DDT to get rid of Crash and it’s one on one. Back up and Christian tries a victory roll but Hardcore sits down on it Owen Hart style for the pin at 14:27.

Rating: D+. This was kind of a miss as there wasn’t much to keep me interested. It was a bunch of people hitting moves on each other until Hardcore was the only one left. That isn’t the most thrilling match and Hardcore getting the win is a little strange. You would think it would have been Edge/Christian or a Hardy after their big latter match earlier in the year. I guess Hardcore is a better prospect?

Shane McMahon says Austin is undergoing a lot of tests and that’s all we know. The main event will still be a triple threat, but no one is named. Test standing in the background is just a detail I’m sure.

Tag Team Titles: New Age Outlaws vs. Mankind/Al Snow

Mankind and Snow are challenging. The bell rings and Mankind says he knows Stone Cold will be fine. JR: “Mankind gave Al Snow Head last week on Smackdown.” Lawler: “WHAT???” Mankind and Gunn grapple around to start but Gunn grabs a backbreaker to take over. A sleeper doesn’t work well for Gunn as Mankind rolls them both outside, where Dogg hits Gunn in the head.

Snow comes in to hammer on Dogg as JR goes into a quick discussion of Snow’s ridiculously controversial action figure (when an annoying mother decided that the mannequin head was a severed head and no one looked into it before pulling the figure). It’s back to Mankind to pound Dogg down in the corner, setting up a chair to the back, which is pretty normal in this era.

The reverse chinlock doesn’t last long on Dogg so Mankind forearms him in the back instead. Snow stomps Dogg down in the corner and Mankind gets two off a running knee lift. Everything breaks down and everyone fights outside with the Outlaws taking over. Back in and it’s Snow getting pummeled in the corner until a clothesline gets him out of trouble. The hot tag brings in Mankind to clean house, only to have Gunn hit a quick Fameasser to give Dogg two. Everything breaks down and it’s a spike piledriver to plant Mankind and retain the title at 14:01.

Rating: C. I liked this a bit more than I would have expected to, though it probably needed to be a few minutes shorter. Above all else, they went with the right choice, as there was no reason to go back to Mankind and Snow as champions. They were never going to be a long term solution, especially not with Edge and Christian, the Hardys and the Dudleyz on the way.

Commentary gives us another quick recap on Austin but they still don’t know much.

WWF Title: The Rock vs. HHH vs. ???

HHH is defending and the other challenger is….the Big Show. Well that’s a surprise. Rock and HHH go right after the giant to start and get headbutted down in a hurry for his efforts. HHH can’t get very far with some right hands in the corner but Rock manages to post Show for a breather. Granted it’s a quick breather though as Show runs Rock over and kicks away at HHH in the corner.

Back in and Rock manages to knock Show down, setting up the People’s Elbow for two, with HHH making the save. Show sends HHH outside and punches him in various places until Rock catches up with a running clothesline. HHH is sent face first into the set and Rock punches him through a table. Show loads up a chokeslam on Rock on the floor but HHH hits him low for the save. They head back to ringside with Show sending HHH into various things.

Rock breaks that up and it’s a double suplex to put Show through the announcers’ table. That leaves HHH and Rock to fight into the crowd for all of a few seconds before heading back to ringside. The ref gets bumped so the Rock Bottom to HHH gets two from a running in Shane McMahon. Another Rock Bottom gets two as Show pulls Shane outside. Rock gets sent over the announcers’ table, leaving HHH to Pedigree Shane. Show comes back in but here is DX to go after him instead. Cue Vince McMahon with the belt to hit HHH In the face. Show chokeslams HHH for the pin and the title (with Vince counting) at 16:14.

Rating: C+. This was a bit of a weird one as it was mainly Rock and HHH trying to slow Show down and then fight each other. That only works so well when Show keeps getting back in and wrecking things, but it worked well for the wild card feeling they were trying to hit. Show was a good X factor here and it was a smart move to go with the new star with Austin going away for so long. He doesn’t have to hold the title long, but the company has a new focal point and that’s a good thing.

Show poses to end the show.

Overall Rating: D+. It got a little better by the end but this show started off badly and only improved a little. This was a weird time in WWE as Russo had only been gone for about a month and they were trying to figure out where they were going. Austin leaving made it even worse so they were kind of limited with their options. At the same time, we were starting to come out of the wacky Attitude Era but we were still a pretty good distance away from things getting serious (and better). That makes a pretty bad show, but the good times were on their way soon.

Ratings Comparison

Team Godfather/D’Lo Brown vs. Team Dudley Boys

Original: B-

2012 Redo: C

2021 Redo: D+

Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Stasiak

Original: C+

2012 Redo: D+

2021 Redo: D+

Team Val Venis vs. Team British Bulldog

Original: D+

2012 Redo: D-

2021 Redo: D

Team Mae Young vs. Team Ivory

Original: N/A

2012 Redo: N/A

2021 Redo: N/A

Kane vs. X-Pac

Original: C+

2012 Redo: C+

2021 Redo: C-

Big Show vs. Team Big Boss Man

Original: N/A

2012 Redo: N/A

2021 Redo: N/A

Chyna vs. Chris Jericho

Original: B

2012 Redo: B

2021 Redo: C

Team Too Cool vs. Team Edge/Christian

Original: B

2012 Redo: C+

2021 Redo: D+

New Age Outlaws vs. Al Snow/Mankind

Original: D+

2012 Redo: D

2021 Redo: C

Big Show vs. HHH vs. The Rock

Original: C+

2012 Redo: C-

2021 Redo: C+

Overall Rating

Original: B

2012 Redo: D+

2021 Redo: D+

This is all over the place even for me. I was confused by some of those older ratings as this really is quite the odd show.

Here’s the original review if you’re interested:

http://kbwrestlingreviews.com/2011/11/08/history-of-survivor-series-count-up-1999-a-lot-happens-here/

And the 2012 Redo:

http://kbwrestlingreviews.com/2015/11/06/survivor-series-count-up-1999-austin-fell-down/

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